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					united kingdom  
					& the Struggle for Tamil Eelam 
			
				UK Parliamentary Debate on Sri Lanka  
				together with a Prefatory Comment by 
				
				 
				 Nadesan Satyendra 
				
				
				[see also 
				1.
				
				LTTE Yogi on the Current Political Situation  - 
				Audio/Video Presentation and 
				2.Sanmugam 
				Sabesan - விளையாட்டு - அரசியல் - மொழி - நாட்டுப்பற்று! 
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				2 May 2007 
				  
  
						
			
			  
			
								
			 
								
								Prefatory Comment 
								by Nadesan Satyendra  
								
									The UK Parliamentary 
									Debate on Sri Lanka on 2 May 2007, signalled 
									openly  the intention of the United 
									Kingdom to play a more direct role in the 
									conflict in the island of Sri Lanka.  
									The 'UK intervention' was 
									in the pipeline for several months - ever 
									since it became apparent that the
									
									Norwegian initiative was failing to make 
									progress. Several factors contributed to the 
									Norwegian failure. 
									One was the election of 
									President Rajapakse in November 2005 
									together with his reliance, directly or 
									indirectly on the JVP. If Ranil 
									Wickremasinghe (the international 
									community's favoured son) had been elected, 
									the US backed Norwegian initiative would 
									have clearly continued. And the UK would 
									have been content to simply continue to back 
									that process - a peace process concerning 
									which Barry Gardiner, M.P. (Brent, North) 
									recalled
									
									(in the Guardian of 2 January 2007),  
									that Ranil Wickremasinghe had 'boasted' to 
									him: 'They (the LTTE) want government? I'll 
									bog them down with government.'  
									Another factor which 
									perhaps put the final seal on the Norwegian 
									initiative was the
									
									EU ban on the LTTE in May 2006. Despite 
									Norways effort to distance itself from the 
									ban by its declaration 
									
									that it will no longer align itself with 
									EU list of banned organisations, the LTTE 
									response in calling upon the Peace Monitors 
									from the EU to withdraw, effectively spelt 
									the end of the Monitoring mechanism. The 
									"good cop (Norway) and bad cop (US)"  
									routine had not proved effective and in the 
									end,  Major General Ulf Henricsson, the 
									Head of Sri Lanka Monitoring Mission (SLMM) 
									criticised the European Union for having 
									ignored a "seven-point memo" sent by the 
									SLMM before banning the Liberation Tigers of 
									Tamil Eelam (LTTE).  
									In retrospect, many in the 
									EU may believe that the ban on the LTTE was 
									an error of judgment, in that it reduced the 
									leverage that the EU may have otherwise 
									enjoyed and in fact opened the door for a 
									UK-India-Commonwealth role with the EU 
									reduced to an 'observer role'. The 
									international community (read the 
									trilaterals - US, EU and Japan) left with 
									reduced ability to progress its  
									interests in the conflict in the island, 
									attempted to bring a
									
									draft resolution on Sri Lanka 
									in the Human Rights Council in 
									August/September 2006.  But no majority 
									was forthcoming - and reportedly the draft 
									resolution 
									
									was thwarted by India, China and many 
									member states belonging to the third world. 
									It is in this context that the 
									
									President Rajapakse meeting with Prime 
									Minister Tony Blair in late August 2006 
									may have to be understood.  
									UK Minister for the Middle 
									East, Dr. Kim Howells  who opened the 
									debate on Sri Lanka
									
									was right to point out - 
									
										"I want the House to 
										know that this debate ...is not, as some 
										propagandists and partisan elements have 
										claimed, a debate generated by any 
										faction of Sri Lankan politics or by any 
										lobbying organisations claiming to 
										represent any part of the large Sri 
										Lankan diaspora residing in Britain, pro 
										or anti-LTTE." 
									 
									Indeed if anything, the 
									lobbying may have been the other way around.
									
									Mr. Paul Murphy M.P. (Torfaen) (Lab) 
									in explaining  some of the lessons 
									learned from the North Ireland peace process 
									pointed out that "one of the key reasons why 
									the Northern Ireland process was successful 
									was that the attitude of the Irish diaspora 
									changed towards what should happen in 
									Ireland." -  
									
										"One of the key 
										reasons why the Northern Ireland process 
										was successful was that the attitude of 
										the Irish diaspora�in Australia and 
										other countries to an extent, but most 
										importantly in the United States�changed 
										towards what should happen in Ireland. 
										Nowadays, almost everybody in the 
										USA�such as Irish-American politicians 
										and business people�has signed up to the 
										Good Friday agreement. 
										If we can get the Sri Lankan diaspora 
										across the world to have a similar frame 
										of mind�if they begin to think that 
										they can sign up to a process and then 
										help the people of Sri Lanka 
										economically and commercially�that will 
										be a considerable improvement." 
									 
									Furthermore, in March 
									2007, Sri Lankan Foreign Secretary Palitha 
									Kohona
									
									in an interview reported by M.R. Narayan 
									Swamy, IANS 
									when asked how Britain could help, answered 
									- 
									
										 'While every effort 
										had been made in the past to reach out 
										to the LTTE hierarchy, no effort had 
										been made to reach out to the lower 
										levels of LTTE support base.'  
									 
									And in
									
									response to a question by Mr. Edward Davey 
									M.P, Dr. Kim Howells, said: 
									
										"The hon. Gentleman is 
										not to know this, but we have had quite 
										a number of meetings with Tamil groups 
										from around the country. As well as 
										talking to the Sri Lankan Government, we 
										have met all kinds of representatives. 
										Let me assure him that this is a 
										completely balanced approach." 
									 
									Given all this,  the 
									Tamil diaspora (in the UK and elsewhere)  
									would have welcomed a more transparent 
									approach by the United Kingdom about the 
									strategic issues raised by  the two 
									geopolitical triangles in the Indian Ocean 
									region: U.S.-India-China relations and 
									China-Pakistan-India relations, and the 
									extent to which that uneasy power balance 
									was of significance to the current  
									efforts made by the United Kingdom to secure 
									peace in the island of Sri Lanka.   
									
										[see for example - 
										 1.
										India's Project Seabird  
										and the Indian Ocean's Balance of Power  
										2.
										US views Tamil Nadu 
										as 'gateway state' connected both 
										to the east and the west  3.
										China moves into 
										India's back yard 
										 4.
										Another U.S. 
										base in the Indian Ocean? - Acquisition 
										and Cross-Servicing Agreement & the Indo 
										Sri Lanka Accord   5.
										
										Sri Lanka�s Strategic Importance 
										6.China undertakes 
										construction of Hambantota Port  
										7.China's 
										Submarine Base in Maldives  - 
										Gayoom Fears UK Coup and  7.Sri Lanka President 
										Mahinda Rajapakse leaves for China ] 
									 
									It would have been helpful 
									if Dr. Kim Howells had explained the United 
									Kingdom's own strategic (and trade)  
									interests in the Indian Ocean Region and its 
									concern (if any) at the continued China ward 
									tilt by Sri Lanka, evidenced in part by
									
									President Rajapakse's  recent visit to 
									China 
									and the agreements sought with China on oil 
									exploration and the Hambantota port 
									development. It would have also been helpful 
									if the 
									
									Parliamentary Under-Secretary 
									of State for International Development, Mr. 
									Gareth Thomas 
									who spoke at the close of the debate had 
									expanded on the passing reference made by 
									
									Mr. Andrew Pelling 
									M.P. (Croydon, Central) (Con) when he 
									intervened in the debate to say  - ".. 
									We have a global strategic interest in Sri 
									Lanka. The Chinese are investing there, and 
									perhaps taking their own approach to the 
									balance of power in that part of south 
									Asia..." 
									
									
									  
									The Tamil diaspora, are 
									ofcourse,  not unaware that in the 
									1960s, for instance the
									Shah of Iran (with US support) 
									intervened in the Kurds - Iraq conflict, 
									to pressure Iraq and no sooner Iran and Iraq 
									settled their differences, the Kurd  
									leader 
									Mulla Mustafa,
									
									was told to pack up and go home - and 
									ended up (seeking and getting asylum) in the 
									US.  Tamils are also aware that in the 
									1980s,
									
									India intervened in the Tamil Eelam struggle 
									for freedom to exert pressure on Sri 
									Lanka and when Sri Lanka recognised India�s 
									geo political interests in the 
									
									Annexures 
									to the 1987 Indo Sri Lanka Accord,  
									India called upon the Tamils to accept
									the 
									'comic opera' provincial councils with a 
									Sinhala appointed Governor. Many of the 
									Tamil 'liberation groups' who had depended 
									for their survival on Indian support, had 
									little option but to comply with India's 
									demand and did  pack up and go - or to 
									use the current euphemism, "join the 
									political main stream". And the India 
									supported EPRLF leader  Varadarajah 
									Perumal ended up (not unlike the Kurd 
									leader, Mulla Mustafa) 
									seeking and getting asylum, not ofcourse in 
									the US but in India.  Tamils are also 
									aware that in the early 1950s, US and 
									Britain recruited and supported Albanian 
									rebels in a supposed bid to overthrow the 
									Albanian communist regime with the real 
									objective of sending a message to Stalin to 
									stay clear of Greece - and then backed out 
									when communist pressure on Greece was 
									relieved.  
									 
									
										"..American and 
										British intelligence men who took part 
										in the conspiracy .... concede that the 
										Albanian exiles were not told the full 
										truth.... In battle it is sometimes 
										necessary to give up a platoon so as to 
										facilitate a battalion's withdrawal. If 
										'pawns' have to be 'sacrificed' in order 
										to deter an adversary from aggression, 
										then so be it, it must be done. And in 
										extreme cases, when vital interests are 
										truly at risk, the victims must be 
										deceived." (Nicholas 
										Bethell 
										in  
										
										The Great Betrayal Given these happenings,  
									Tamils would have felt reassured of the 
									United Kingdom's stand on the conflict in 
									the island of Sri Lanka,  if  Dr. 
									Howells had taken the opportunity afforded 
									by the debate, to make clear his view of 
									what should be the 'legitimate aspirations' 
									of the Tamil people - legitimate, that is, 
									in the light of international law and 
									standards. This was all the more relevant 
									because the thrust of the Parliamentary 
									debate was, after all,  to call upon 
									all the parties to the conflict in the 
									island  to conform to international law 
									and standards. It would have been helpful if  
									Dr. Howells had made clear whether his view 
									on what was a 'legitimate' was in accord 
									with the view expressed by the Gandhian 
									Tamil Eelam leader S.J.V.Chelvanayagam 
									Q.C. in 1975 - 
									
										"We have for 
										the last 25 years made every effort to 
										secure our political rights on the basis 
										of equality with the Sinhalese in a 
										united Ceylon. It is a regrettable 
										fact that successive Sinhalese 
										governments have used the power that 
										flows from independence to deny us our fundamental 
										rights and reduce us to the position of 
										a subject people. These governments 
										have been able to do so only by using 
										against the Tamils the sovereignty 
										common to the Sinhalese and the Tamils. 
										I wish to announce to my people and to 
										the country that I consider the verdict 
										at this election as a mandate that the 
	Tamil Eelam 
										nation should exercise the sovereignty 
										already vested in the Tamil people and 
										become free."
  										 
									 
									And if  the United 
									Kingdom took the view that the legitimate 
									aspirations of the Tamil people as expressed 
									by the Gandhian leader S.J.V.Chelvanayagam 
									were not 'legitimate', it would have been 
									helpful to understand whether that United 
									Kingdom view was founded on international 
									law and standards or simply on the 
									exigencies of real politick. Here, it would 
									have also been helpful if Dr. Howells had 
									expressed his response to the view of Yelena 
									Bonner (widow of Andrei Sakharov) that "the 
									inviolability of a country's borders against 
									invasion from the outside must be clearly 
									separated from the right to statehood of any 
									people within a state's borders." 
									Be that as it all may, 
									given the continuing
									 murderous onslaught 
									by Sri Lanka on the people of Tamil 
									Eelam, and the suffering being endured by 
									their 'udan pirapukal' back in their 
									homeland,  it will be understandable if 
									some Tamils in the diaspora (to whom the UK 
									intervention was partly addressed) feel that 
									their response to the UK Parliamentary 
									debate should be on the lines of the
									teen age girl's response in 
									the pebble story. They may feel that 
									somethings are best left unsaid and that the 
									way forward is to avoid  engaging the 
									international community on its own strategic 
									imperatives and the underlying rationale for 
									its actions.  These Tamils may feel 
									that their way is the 'anuku murai' - the 
									diplomatic way, the effective way to 
									'approach' issues. They may feel that that 
									is the best way to obtain some succour for 
									their 'udan pirapukal' back in their 
									homeland at a time of great need. And they 
									may well be right. 
									But at the same time it 
									may be well to remember that the 
									international community is not without 
									sufficient 'skills' and resources to respond 
									to the Tamil  'anuku murai'  with 
									their own 'anuku murai' (particularly, at 
									this time of great need) and advance their 
									own agenda. There may be, therefore,  a 
									need to take care that  the Tamil 
									people are not led to believe that all that 
									has to be done is to wake up the 
									international community to the facts and to 
									the justice of our cause and all will be 
									well. Or worse still, so confuse the Tamil 
									people that they accept the assessments of 
									the international community (as to what is a 
									'legitimate aspiration' and what is not) as 
									the assessments of a disinterested good 
									samaritan, concerned simply to secure peace, 
									justice and human rights for a distant 
									people in a far off  island in the 
									Indian ocean. Such confusion,  far from 
									paving the way forward to a just peace may 
									simply lead the Tamil diaspora up a garden 
									path to
									
									comic opera reforms. After all, it is 
									not that we have not been there before. 
									Three years ago on 3 May 2003, Mamanithar 
									Dharmeretnam Sivaram
									
									writing on the Folly of Eelam Punditry 
									warned  -
									 
									
										"..Today it is clear 
										beyond all reasonable doubt that India 
										and the US-UK-Japan Bloc are trying to 
										influence and manage Sri Lanka's peace 
										process to promote and consolidate their 
										respective strategic and economic 
										interests...From 1983 to 86, it was 
										taboo among Tamils to 
										
										propagate the truth that India was 
										exploiting their cause to gain a 
										foothold in Sri Lanka. The few who dared 
										to speak about India's hegemonistic 
										designs were admonished not to be too 
										rash lest we provoke Delhi's ire and 
										cause a disruption in the weapons 
										handouts by the RAW....The price the 
										Tamil liberation movement as a whole had 
										to pay for not educating the people 
										about the truth of India's intentions 
										was high. At this juncture, even a 
										doddering dullard would find the deja vu 
										inescapable...The Tamil nation cannot 
										afford to make the same mistake again... 
										"  
									 
									The Tamil nation cannot 
									afford to make the same mistake again. 
									Strategic interests do not disappear because 
									they are unstated.  It was a British 
									Foreign Secretary, 
			
									Lord Palmerston (1784-1865) who remarked 
									famously 150 years ago  "We have no 
									eternal allies and we have no perpetual 
									enemies. Our interests are eternal and 
									perpetual, and those interests it is our 
									duty to follow." These are words of wisdom 
									which are not irrelevant to the Tamil people 
									as well - and Tamils, whether in the 
									diaspora or elsewhere,  will be right  
									to pay careful attention to the words of 
									Tamil Eelam leader Velupillai Pirabakaran 
									uttered some 14 years ago -  
									
										"...We are fully aware 
										that the world is not rotating on the 
										axis of human justice. Every country in 
										this world advances its own interests. 
										It is the economic and trade interests 
										that determine the order of the present 
										world, not the 
										moral law of justice
										nor the rights of 
										people.
										
										International relations and diplomacy 
										between countries are determined by such 
										interests...." 
										
										Velupillai Pirabaharan, 
										Maha Veera Naal Address -  November 
										1993 
									 
									All this is not to say 
									that the Tamil people should dismiss the 
									statements made in the UK Parliamentary 
									debate on Sri Lanka. They should not.  
									It is simply to say  that they should 
									place these statements in the context of  
									the often unstated strategic interests of 
									those who are now concerned to play a more 
									overt interventionist role in the Tamil 
									Eelam struggle for freedom. It is only then 
									that the Tamil people will be able to secure 
									solid ground under their feet, stand 
									perpendicular and explore in a meaningful 
									way, with the international community 
									(including India), 
									
									the ways of getting to yes in the island of 
									Sri Lanka.   
									Here, 
									Dr. Kim 
									Howells remarks on the proscription of the 
									LTTE are noteworthy. He said 
									
										"We have repeatedly 
										urged the LTTE to move away from the 
										path of violence. In the absence of a 
										full renunciation of terrorism in deed 
										and word, there can be no question of 
										reconsidering its proscribed status."
										 
									 
									It would have been helpful 
									if Dr.Howells had made clear whether the 
									LTTE should renounce 'violence' or 
									'terrorism' or whether he was using the two 
									words synonymously. Many in the Tamil 
									diaspora may feel that
									
									we obfuscate when we conflate the two words 
									'terrorism' and 'violence'. The Cuban 
									revolution was violent but it was not 
									terrorism. The war against Hitler was 
									violent but it was not terrorism. The 
									question that may need to be addressed is 
									whether there are any circumstances in which 
									a people ruled by an alien people 
									
									may lawfully 
									resort to arms to resist that alien rule 
									and secure freedom. And if all resort to 
									violence to secure political ends is
									not terrorism then, we may need  
									to address the question: 
									what is terrorism? And we 
									must avoid an Alice in Wonderland approach 
									to the definition of terrorism - 
										
	 "'When 
										I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in a 
										rather scornful tone, 'it means just 
										what I choose it to mean, neither more 
										nor less'. 'The question is,' said 
										Alice, 'whether you can make words mean 
										so many different things'. 'The question 
										is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be 
										master - that's all'." 
						
	Alice in Wonderland,  Lewis Carrol - Through the Looking 
										Glass, c.vi  
									It would have been helpful 
									if Dr.Howells had recognised the need to 
									address the issue raised in the
									
									Final Report of UN Special Rapporteur 
									Kalliopi K. Koufa
									on Terrorism and Human Rights in June 
									2004  - "The most problematic issue 
									relating to terrorism and armed conflict is 
									distinguishing terrorists from
									lawful combatants"  
									- and openly accept the need for the United 
									Kingdom to review the proscription of the 
									LTTE  so that UK domestic law  may 
									accord with the European Convention on Human 
									Rights as well as international law and 
									standards concerning the right of a people 
									to take up arms to free themselves  
									from 
									oppressive alien rule. 
									
									Said that, both 
									
									
									the 
									Minister for the Middle East, Dr. Kim 
									Howells 
									and  
									
									the 
									Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for 
									International Development, Mr. Gareth Thomas, 
									were right to give expression to the United 
									Kingdom's desire for "a 
									peaceful solution to the conflict" 
									in the island of Sri Lanka.   
									
									
									But,  
									peace, like everything else, 
									comes in different sizes and shapes. There 
									is the peace of the graveyard and the peace 
									of servile surrender. There is the peace of 
									appeasement and peace with honour. There is 
									also lasting peace - lasting because it is 
									just. But what does justice mean? An empty 
									platitude devoid of meaning? A meaningless 
									cliche meaning anything and everything? A 
									useful weapon in the politician's armoury of 
									rhetoric? High sounding morality which 
									serves to cloak the pursuit of mean 
									political advantage? 
									
									
									In the end, the question is 
									whether the Tamil people and the Sinhala 
									people sitting together as equals can agree 
									upon political structures which secure the 
									equality and freedom of each people and  
									which address not only the aspirations but 
									also the concerns, the fears, and the 
									apprehensions of each.  
									 It is for the Tamil people 
									and the Sinhala people to be unafraid to 
									have a continuing, open and honest 
									conversation with each other and in this way 
									help mobilise a critical mass of people 
									committed to secure justice and democracy in 
									the island - a democracy where no one people 
									rule another.  
									
									Here, we need to avoid 
									perpetuating
									
									the Singer error. Faced with 
									diametrically opposed positions, it is easy 
									to conclude that the only way out is to 
									explore the whole area  in the 
									continuum between 'Independent Tamil Eelam' 
									at one end and 'Unitary Sri Lanka' at the 
									other end. This then is the path of district 
									councils, provincial councils, regional 
									councils, the unit of devolution, the extent 
									of devolution, federalism, and confederation 
									- a path which has ended in failure, time 
									and again.
									We need to
									
									think out of the box. And of those who 
									talk about federalism, we may want to ask 
									who is to federate with whom? It is a 
									question that may help to focus minds. 
									
									The struggle for Tamil Eelam 
									is not about 'very moderate devolution' or 
									'modest devolution' or 'significant 
									devolution'. It is not about devolving power 
									from the higher to the lower. It is not 
									about devolution. Period. 
									
										".. if the minority 
										group seeks to be self-governing, or to 
										secede from the larger state, increased 
										representation at the centre will not be 
										satisfactory. The problem in this case 
										is that the group does not identify with 
										the centre, or want to be part of that 
										political community...One conclusion 
										that can be drawn is that, in some 
										cases, secession/partition of the two 
										communities, where that option is 
										available, is the best outcome 
										overall. .."  
						
										Normative justifications 
										for liberal nationalism - Margaret 
										Moore, 2001 
									 
									
									The struggle for Tamil Eelam 
									is about 
									 
									freedom from alien Sinhala rule. It is 
									not about securing benevolent Sinhala rule.  
									
										At the same time, 
										the struggle for Tamil Eelam is also 
										about how two free peoples may  
										associate with each other in equality, 
										in freedom and in peace. And 
										not much is gained by straight jacketing 
										a negotiating process on the basis of 
										old ideas and conceptual models.  
									 
									
									
									After three hundred years of 
									wars and two world wars, the countries in 
									Europe have moved towards an European Union 
									- a new conceptual model which had not 
									existed earlier but which addressed the 
									desire of the peoples of Europe to live in 
									equality, in freedom and in peace. It should 
									not be beyond the political will of the 
									Tamil people and the Sinhala people to 
									
									
									work out a legal framework for two 
									free and independent peoples to co-exist - a 
									legal framework where they may pool their 
									sovereignty in certain agreed areas, so that 
									they may co-exist in peace. 
									The demand 
									for an independent  Tamil Eelam is not 
									negotiable. It is not negotiable because it 
									is the expression of the
									
									settled will of the Tamil people, 
									consolidated
									
									by struggle and suffering and fertilised 
									by thousands of Tamil lives - and above all, 
									because it is a will directed to create a 
									future where they and their children and 
									their children's children may live in 
									security, in freedom and with
									
									thanmaanam. Yes,
									
									we too, are a people - and a meaningful 
									negotiating process cannot begin without 
									understanding not only the Tamil mind but 
									also the Tamil heart. 
   
									The demand 
									for an independent  Tamil Eelam is not 
									negotiable - but an independent Tamil Eelam 
									can and will negotiate. A meaningful 
									negotiating process will  need  to 
									telescope two stages  - independence 
									and beyond independence. Yes, beyond 
									independence. It is only the independent who 
									may negotiate the terms on which they may 
									agree to be inter-dependent. And there is 
									much to negotiate about.  And the Tamil 
									diaspora will have reason to remind 
									themselves again of the words of Velupillai 
									Pirabaharan which provided the theme for 
									the International Federation of Tamils 
									Conference "Towards a Just Peace" in London 
									in 1992, some 15 years ago: 
   
"It is the Sri Lankan government which has failed to learn the 
lessons from the emergence of the 
struggles for self determination in several parts of the globe and the 
innovative structural changes that have taken place."   
 
									Tamils who 
									today live
	in many lands and 
									across distant seas know only too well, 
									from their own life experiences, that 
									sovereignty after all, is not virginity. 
									But 
									they also know that a 'civic 
									Sri Lankan nationalism'  will not 
									come by the suppression of one nation by 
									another.  They know that it will not 
									come by a dominant
									
									Sinhala Buddhist ethno-nationalism 
									seeking to masquerade as a  'civic Sri 
									Lankan nation'.  They know that those 
									who deny the national identity of the Tamil 
									people are not prepared to give up their 
									own. They know that  to work for the 
									
									flowering of the Tamil nation is to 
									bring forward the emergence of a true trans 
									nationalism - and, eventually,  
									a one world.. And if the peoples in the 
									island of Sri Lanka  are not persuaded 
									by all that has happened during the past 
									several decades, then conflict resolution 
									will continue to take the form of war - 
									directed to change minds and hearts. And 
									debates whether in the House of Commons or 
									elsewhere may not be of much avail. 
									 
									 
			 
			From the Hansard, 2 May 2007 
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					 tamilnation.org 
			 
			
			The Minister for the Middle East (Dr. Kim Howells): 
			 
			 
				I beg to move, That this House do now adjourn.
				 I am pleased to have this opportunity today to debate the 
				current situation in Sri Lanka, and I am grateful to the right 
				hon. and hon. Members present for their interest in this 
				important issue. There has been mounting concern about the 
				continuing violence and tragic displacement of people from their 
				homes on that beautiful island.
				 I want the House to know that this debate is the result of 
				expressions of concern from right hon. and hon. Members. It is 
				not, as some propagandists and partisan elements have claimed, a 
				debate generated by any faction of Sri Lankan politics or by any 
				lobbying organisations claiming to represent any part of the 
				large Sri Lankan diaspora residing in Britain, pro or anti-LTTE.
				 
					
					
					
					comment by tamilnation.org 
					
					"...We are fully aware that the world 
					is not rotating on the axis of human justice. Every country 
					in this world advances its own interests. It is the economic 
					and trade interests that determine the order of the present 
					world, not the 
									moral law of justice
								nor the rights of 
					people.
									
					International relations and diplomacy between countries are 
					determined by such interests. 
								Therefore we cannot expect an immediate 
					recognition of the
									
					moral legitimacy of our cause by the international 
					community..." 
									
									
					Velupillai Pirabaharan, Maha Veera Naal Address - 14 years 
					ago in November 1993  
				I participated in a debate on Sri Lanka a year ago, when I 
				expressed the hope that its Government and the LTTE�the 
				Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam�would fulfil the commitments 
				that they made 
				
				at talks in Geneva in February 2006, which were the first 
				talks for three years. The Government had pledged that 
				no armed group or person other than Government security forces 
				would carry arms or conduct operations. For its part, the 
				LTTE had pledged to ensure that there would be no acts of 
				violence against the security forces and the police.
				 Sadly, those commitments remain unfulfilled. We have over the 
				past year seen worsening violence. 
				Extra-judicial 
				killings, disappearances, intimidation and violence by 
				paramilitary groups are all too common.
				 
					
					
					
					comment by tamilnation.org  
					Extra judicial killings and disappearances have not (by any 
					means) been the special preserve of the so called Sri Lankan 
					para military groups. See for instance
					
					
					1.
	
					Massacre of 17 Aid Workers by Sri Lanka Army - President 
					Mahinda Rajapakse's War Crime 2.Pon 
					Ganeshamoorthy: a Tamil Nationalist, murdered by Sri Lanka 
					Intelligence Operatives 3.
	
					Sri Lanka Navy murders Tamil civilians in Pesalai Church 
					3.
	
					Sri Lanka soldiers massacre Tamil family of four in Vankalai 
					4.Baby 
					of four months, 4-year-old child, among nine Tamils  
					murdered by Sri Lanka Navy in Jaffna 5.
			
					Sri Lanka army beats to death S. Thanabalasingham, a forty 
					year old farmer in Trincomalee 6.
			
					Sri Lanka Army  murders five Tamils in Trincomalee 
					and
					many more  
				The violence has fuelled an atmosphere of extreme mistrust 
				and polarisation, which has fuelled further antagonism and 
				violence. Innocent civilians have borne the brunt. There are now 
				more than 100,000 displaced persons in the eastern district of 
				Batticaloa and hundreds more arrive every day.
				 There have been more than 700 cases of missing persons in the 
				Jaffna peninsular, and nearly 500 are still unresolved. There 
				have been more than 50 abductions in Colombo in the past year, 
				and nine media workers have lost their lives in recent months. 
				In the past few weeks, bus bombings have killed dozens of people 
				simply going about their daily business. These are despicable 
				terrorist acts 
				that are totally without justification.
				 The responsibility of the LTTE for violent acts over the 
				years is well documented. It is a proscribed organisation under the Terrorism 
				Act 2000. 
				The EU listed the LTTE as a terrorist organisation in May 2006. 
				We have repeatedly urged the LTTE to move away from the path of 
				violence. In the absence of a full renunciation of terrorism in 
				deed and word, there can be no question of reconsidering its 
				proscribed status.
				 LTTE involvement in 
				killings, 
				torture, detention 
				of civilians and 
				denial of freedom of speech is 
				a reality. The 
				LTTE does not tolerate any expression of opposition and its 
				continuing 
				recruitment of 
				child soldiers is a matter of great concern.
				 
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					by tamilnation.org  
					"The key objective 
					of (the UK based) ARMY Magazine is to encourage teenage boys 
					and girls under the recruitment age of 16 to move from a 
					simple 'interest' in the Army to a position where they 
					actively consider a career...The judges felt that 'the 
					magazine is clearly on brand and appropriate; it has very 
					high production values and the back-up research results were 
					impressive.'"
					
					Association of Publishers 2004 Award for  
					Most effective public sector title - Army Magazine, 
					British Army Recruiting Group - Haymarket Customer 
					Publishing  
				The ability of the LTTE to raise funds overseas helps to 
				sustain its ability to carry out violent acts and reduces the 
				incentive to move way from the path of violence. LTTE 
				fundraising activity in the United Kingdom encourages war, not 
				peace. It will not be tolerated, and I have recently met our 
				security authorities to discuss how we can counter the bullying, 
				threats and acts of fraud that are used regularly to extract 
				money from the Tamil population and others in the country.
				  
			
				The LTTE is not the only source of violence in Sri Lanka, 
				however. Civilians in Government-controlled areas regularly fall 
				victim to brutal attacks by paramilitary groups, often acting 
				with apparent immunity. Reports of the Government�s links with 
				the faction led by Karuna, a former LTTE commander, concern us a 
				great deal. We believe Karuna and his faction to be responsible 
				for extra-judicial killings, abductions, intimidation of 
				displaced persons and child recruitment. Karuna�s record is 
				appalling, and we will be watching very closely whether he acts 
				on his commitment to the United Nations to address the child 
				recruitment issue. We will want to see clear evidence that he 
				has delivered against his welcome promises. Karuna needs to go 
				further and cease all acts of violence and intimidation against 
				civilians.
				 There must be no question of the Government of Sri Lanka 
				allowing Karuna to perpetrate those crimes. If they are serious 
				in their desire to find paths to an inclusive, peaceful Sri 
				Lanka that embraces all its 
				peoples and cultures, they must disassociate themselves 
				completely from all acts of 
				abuse,
				terrorism, 
				intimidation or torture, 
				no matter who commits them or what agency encourages them.
				  Mr. 
				Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (Cotswold) (Con): 
				Is the Minister aware of the comment made by the FBI 
				assistant director in charge, who said �Karuna hasn�t merely 
				supported the LTTE cause, he has orchestrated support in the 
				US�? Before the Minister concludes his speech, will he answer 
				two questions? First, what international co-ordination is there 
				on intelligence to stop fundraising for the LTTE? Secondly, is 
				there similar co-ordination to ensure that people such as 
				Karuna, who have committed acts of terrorism, are brought to 
				justice?
				
				  
			Dr. Howells: 
			 
				The hon. Gentleman is right: the list of crimes by this 
				faction is long. We have been exchanging intelligence with a 
				number of agencies in other countries. He will know that I 
				cannot go into detail about that matter, although I can say that 
				lately intelligence has indicated that there may be widespread 
				fraud scams in the country. We are not certain about that, but 
				they may be one of the sources of funding, at least part of 
				which finds its way back to the LTTE and acts of terrorism.
				 Achieving peace is not going to be an easy task, and of 
				course it is primarily for the Sri Lankan people to find a way 
				forward. However, the international community can help. The 
				Norwegians have had a central role in facilitating 
				
				the 2002 ceasefire agreement, and the British Government 
				applaud their efforts. It is obvious from recent events that the 
				ceasefire is in trouble, 
				if not shot to pieces. 
				If it is adhered to and underpinned by the right conditions, 
				however, it can still be a good base from which to launch a new 
				peace initiative. The Norwegians have worked tirelessly and in 
				difficult conditions to advance the cause of peace. As I said, 
				they have our support. We value our regular consultations with 
				them. The Norwegians tell us our commitment is valuable at this 
				time. We support the work of the co-chairs�the US, the EU, Japan 
				and Norway.
				 Mr. Chris Mullin (Sunderland, South) (Lab): Would I be 
				right in thinking that the Norwegian general who was based in 
				Sri Lanka advised the EU against declaring the LTTE a terrorist 
				organisation and said that that would lead to the breakdown of 
				the ceasefire? 
							
			  
			Dr. Howells: 
			 
				I cannot tell my hon. Friend whether that is true. I do not 
				know; this is the first that I have heard of it, if it is the 
				case. I will try to find out for him, and if I can find anything 
				constructive, I shall write to him.
				 What is Britain doing to help with the search for peace? 
				First and foremost, we are offering the benefit of our Northern 
				Ireland experience. Sri Lanka is not Northern Ireland. It has a 
				population of 20 million, which is more than 10 times that of 
				Northern Ireland, and it is five times larger in area, but we 
				think there are lessons from Northern Ireland that can be 
				applied in a Sri Lankan context. For example, we learned the 
				hard way that a focus on security can get us only so far. A 
				lasting peace can come only if 
				the 
				underlying causes of conflict are addressed. 
				 In Sri Lanka, that means focusing on a credible framework for 
				a negotiated settlement. An all-party conference will shortly 
				present its findings on a constitutional way forward.
				 
	Comment 
	by tamilnation.org  
	
	
	 "..the 
	so called 'new proposals' are in fact nothing new...As early as 1928, the 
	Donoughmore Commission recommended the establishment of Provincial Councils 
	on the ground that it was desirable that a large part of the administrative 
	work of the centre should come into the hands of persons resident in the 
	districts and thus more directly in contact with the needs of the area. 
	Twelve years later the Executive Committee of Local Administration chaired 
	by the late S.W.R.D. Bandaranaike, considered the proposal of the 
	Donoughmore Commission and in 1940, the State Council (the legislature 
	approved the establishment of Provincial Councils. But nothing was in fact 
	done, though in 1947, on the floor of the House of Representatives, the late 
	S.W.R.D. Bandaranaike again declared his support for the establishment of 
	Provincial Councils.   
	In 1955, the Choksy Commission recommended the 
	establishment of Regional Councils to take over the functions that were 
	exercised by the Kacheries and in May 1957, the government of the late 
	S.W.R.D. Bandaranaike presented a draft of the proposed Bill for the 
	establishment of Regional Councils. Subsequently, in July 1957, the 
	Bandaranaike-Chelvanayagam Pact made provision for direct election to 
	Regional Councils and also provided that the subjects covered by Regional 
	Councils shall include agriculture, cooperatives, lands and land 
	development, colonisation and education. The Pact however did not survive 
	the opposition of sections of the Sinhala community which included the 
	United National Party.   
	In July 1963, the government of Mrs. Bandaranaike declared 
	that early consideration' would be given to the question of the 
	establishment of District Councils to replace the Kacheries and the 
	government appointed a Committee on District Councils and the report of this 
	Committee containing a draft of the proposed Bill to establish District 
	Councils but again nothing was in fact done.   
	In 1965, the government of the late Dudley Senanayake 
	declared that it would give 'earnest consideration' to the establishment of 
	District Councils and in 1968 a draft Bill approved by the Dudley Senanayake 
	Cabinet was presented as a White Paper and this Bill provided for the 
	establishment of District Councils. This time round, the opposition to the 
	Bill was spearheaded by the Sri Lanka Freedom Party which professed to 
	follow the policies of the late S.W.R.D. Bandaranaike who himself had in 
	1940, 1947 and again in 1957, supported the establishment of 
	Provincial/Regional Councils. In view of the opposition the Dudley 
	Senanayake government withdrew the Bill that it had presented. 
	 
	 
	More than 50 years have passed since 1928 and we have 
	moved from Provincial Councils to Regional Councils and from Regional 
	Councils to District Councils and now from District Councils back to 
	District/Provincial Councils. We have had the 'early consideration' of Mrs. 
	Srimavo Bandaranaike and the 'earnest consideration' of the late Dudley 
	Senanayake.
	There has been no shortage of Committees and Commissions, of reports and 
	recommendations but that which was lacking was the political will to 
	recognise the existence of the Tamil nation. And simultaneous with this 
	process of 
	
	broken pacts and dishonoured agreements, the Tamil people were subjected 
	to an ever widening and deepening 
	national oppression aimed at undermining the integrity of the Tamil 
	nation. "  
	
	Joint Response by Tamil Delegation to new Sri Lanka proposals, 17 August 
	1985  
	  
					"...Beginning in the mid-1950s Sri Lanka's 
					politicians from the majority Sinhalese community resorted 
					to ethnic outbidding as a means to attain power and in doing 
					so 
					systematically marginalised the 
					country's minority Tamils...parties in power seek to 
					promote dubious conflict resolution only to be checkmated by 
					the respective opposition which typically claims that the 
					proposed solutions are bound to eventually dismember the 
					island"  
					
					Neil Devotta in From ethnic outbidding to 
					ethnic conflict: the institutional bases for Sri Lanka's 
					separatist war, 2005 
				 
				I look forward to the publication of proposals for a 
				framework for peace that satisfies
				
				the legitimate aspirations of all Sri Lankans, and to a 
				constructive 
				response to such proposals from the Sri Lankan Government.
				 
					Comment 
					by tamilnation.org 
					  
					Dr. Kim Howells is right "to 
					look forward to the 
					publication of proposals for a framework for peace that 
					satisfies 
				
					the legitimate aspirations of all Sri Lankans". It would 
					have been helpful if he had also made clear that the two 
					peoples in the island, the Tamil people and the Sinhala 
					people speak different languages,  trace their 
					beginnings to different origins and that the practise of 
					'democracy' within the confines of a single state has led to 
					permanent  rule of one people by another. 
					 
					It would have been helpful if Dr. Kim Howells had taken the 
					opportunity afforded by the debate on Sri Lanka to make 
					clear that the aspiration of the Tamil people to free 
					themselves from
					permanent Sinhala rule was a 
					'legitimate aspiration' whilst the aspiration of the 
					Sinhala nation, 
					masquerading as a 'civic' Sri Lankan nation, to conquer 
					and rule the Tamil people within the confines of a single 
					state, is neither lawful nor  'legitimate'. 
					 
					If democracy means the rule of the people, by the people, 
					for the people, then the principle of self determination 
					secures that no one people may rule another. The struggle 
					for Tamil Eelam is about the democratic right of the 
					people of Tamil Eelam to govern themselves in their homeland 
					- nothing less and nothing more. It is about freedom from alien Sinhala 
					rule. It  is not about securing benevolent Sinhala 
					rule. It is about securing  a legal framework where two 
					free peoples may associate with one another in equality, 
					in freedom and in peace.   
				Our 
				
				Northern Ireland experience told us that peace will not 
				happen until the parties to the conflict understand that nothing 
				can be gained by continuing violence. A military victory for one 
				side is very unlikely to produce a lasting political solution. 
				Our experience tells us that an emphasis on the military 
				inevitably means more war, rather than peace. A military victory 
				is rarely winnable in the long run.
				 Violence comes with too high a price. In Sri Lanka, we can 
				see that such an approach brings suffering to the people, as 
				human rights are eroded, the
				
				humanitarian situation deteriorates,
				a culture of impunity 
				develops among the killers, extortionists and torturers, and 
				mistrust between communities increases. That, in turn, damages 
				Sri Lanka�s image in the eyes of the world. We are doing all 
				we can to get that message across.
				 Mr. Andrew Love (Edmonton) (Lab/Co-op): 
				 I thank my hon. Friend for giving way, and I apologise for 
				arriving too late to hear the start of his speech. 
				Unfortunately, the previous business ended rather suddenly and 
				the debate began before I could get here.
				 My hon. Friend mentioned human rights. There is considerable 
				concern in Sri Lanka and internationally about the human rights 
				situation at the present time. Several international 
				organisations have suggested that the only real solution is to 
				set up a UN-sponsored human rights monitoring commission. How 
				would the Government view such a body?
			  
			Dr. Howells: 
			 
				That suggestion is well worth considering. I will come to the 
				question of a monitoring organisation in a minute. Of course, we 
				already have one, and perhaps the best thing is to make that 
				work rather than search for another one. However, it is 
				certainly something that we could discuss.
				 High-level engagement is an essential part of our efforts to 
				help with the search for peace in Sri Lanka. Last August, my 
				right hon. Friend the Prime Minister offered to share our 
				experience of Northern Ireland with the Sri Lankan President, 
				and he retains a close interest in events in Sri Lanka. I was 
				particularly grateful that my right hon. Friend the Member for 
				Torfaen (Mr. Murphy) visited Sri Lanka in November to convey his 
				invaluable experience as Secretary of State for Northern 
				Ireland. Accompanied by another expert in these matters from the 
				Northern Ireland Office, Mr. Chris McCabe, he met the President, 
				Ministers and members of civil society. 
				 He also met representatives of the LTTE; the lessons of peace 
				can only work if conveyed to all parties to the conflict. We 
				remain ready to talk to the LTTE if such contacts can help the 
				cause of peace. The response in Sri Lanka to my right hon. 
				Friend�s visit was very positive. I know that the President 
				shares my wish that he and Mr. McCabe will pay a return visit to 
				the island, and I understand that preparations are already under 
				way for that.
				 I was pleased to visit Sri Lanka for a second time in 
				February this year. In my meetings with the President, the 
				Foreign Minister and the Defence Secretary, I underlined the 
				British Government�s wish to help in the search for peace. I 
				stressed that a military solution was not the way forward�a 
				message that I repeated to an MP from the Tamil National 
				Alliance. 
				The President told me that he thought 
				that our contact with the LTTE would be helpful.
				 I visited Ampara in the east of the island and was pleased to 
				meet representatives of local communities�not only Sinhalese and 
				Tamil but Muslims. It will be important to take into account the 
				views of the Muslim community in any final negotiated 
				settlement. I heard from UNICEF about the reality of child 
				abductions and the threats and intimidations suffered by other 
				non-governmental organisations in the east of the island.
				 My right hon. Friend the Foreign Secretary met the Sri Lankan 
				Foreign Minister in London in March. She reiterated Britain�s 
				commitment to peace and our willingness to get involved in that 
				whole process. She spoke of the terrible humanitarian impact of 
				the conflict on the civilian population and the need for both 
				sides to do more to protect that population. She repeated the 
				message that there can be no military solution to conflict. The 
				Minister assured her that a credible framework for negotiated 
				settlement would issue very soon.
				 Keith Vaz (Leicester, East) (Lab): 
				 I, too, apologise for arriving late, having been caught out 
				by the business moving so swiftly. I thank my hon. Friend for 
				his focus on these issues; whenever we have asked to meet to 
				discuss them, he has been ready to do so. One of the bars to a 
				proper solution to this problem is the ban that remains on the 
				LTTE. Has he had any further discussions with the Home Secretary 
				about whether the Government would be prepared to lift that ban, 
				so ensuring that all parties could be part of a discussion to 
				bring peace to the island?
			  
			Dr. Howells: 
			 
				My right hon. Friend, through no fault of his own, missed 
				that part of my speech. If he will forgive me, I will not go 
				back over it but simply say that, for reasons that I tried to 
				explain a little earlier, I have not met my right hon. Friend 
				the Home Secretary to discuss this matter; if I thought that it 
				was a good idea I would certainly do so. As I said, my right 
				hon. Friend the Member for Torfaen met LTTE representatives in 
				the north of the island, and we are prepared to meet LTTE 
				representatives in Sri Lanka if it is considered that that will 
				help the peace process. I hope that that is clear enough.
				 John McDonnell (Hayes and Harlington) (Lab): 
				 We are all apologising for lateness, but I was not as late as 
				the others. As we learned from Northern Ireland, individual 
				issues can build up to create a sense of grievance. That is the 
				case with regard to the proscription and non-recognition of the 
				LTTE. Although there can be informal dialogue, nothing can 
				substitute for more formal dialogue and recognition. Removing 
				the ban would undermine one of the elements of the sense of 
				grievance that contributes towards the conflict.
			  
			Dr. Howells: 
			 
				I take my hon. Friend�s point, which is something that we 
				have to consider. However, I have to tell him that, of all 
				Members in this House, I am very much averse to recognising the 
				legitimacy, if I could put it like that, of suicide bombers, 
				murderers, 
				torturers and 
				rapists. I have been 
				there twice and I have heard these stories myself many times, 
				from NGOs and from Tamils 
				themselves, as well as from Sinhalese and the Sinhalese 
				Government. This has to be considered very carefully. As I tried 
				to explain earlier, there is no silver bullet that is going to 
				sort everything out. If we thought that that recognition would 
				take matters forward, we would certainly be prepared to consider 
				it very seriously�I give my hon. Friend that undertaking.
				 Mr. Edward 
				Davey (Kingston and Surbiton) (LD): 
				 I must add my apologies for lateness. The Minister clearly 
				wants to ensure that there is a balanced discussion about this 
				issue, and he is right because it is very serious. However, 
				could not he lay out a review process and explain how he might 
				talk to colleagues in this House and groups in this country, as 
				well as to the people he and his colleagues have met on their 
				visits to Sri Lanka, to determine the criteria? Some people in 
				communities throughout this country and around this House feel 
				that a one-sided approach is being taken and that a proper 
				review process might ensure that a truly balanced approach is 
				taken.
			  
			Dr. 
			Howells: 
			 
				The hon. Gentleman is not to know this, but we have had quite 
				a number of meetings with Tamil groups from around the country. 
				As well as talking to the Sri Lankan Government, we have met all 
				kinds of representatives. Let me assure him that this is a 
				completely balanced approach.
				 Securing this debate is part of that process, and I hope that 
				he will contribute to it. Our approach seeks not to take sides 
				either with the Sinhalese Government or with the LTTE but to try 
				to use our good offices and our experience in Northern Ireland, 
				among other places, to try to find ways in which it might be 
				possible to help the Norwegians to make the ceasefire work, and 
				then to take that peace process forward, put the issues on the 
				table, and get everyone around the table to try to resolve the 
				issue.
				 Some 60,000 people have died in this war so far, and perhaps 
				1 million people have been displaced. It is a very serious 
				conflict by any standards in the world, and we are working very 
				hard to try to resolve it, but, believe me, there is no easy way 
				forward on this one�it will take a long time. This conflict has 
				been going on for a very long time. Before you took your seat in 
				the Chair, Madam Deputy Speaker, Mr. Deputy Speaker was telling 
				me that he remembers it kicking off when he was out there 
				in 1983�in fact, 
				it was the day after he left; I do not know whether he was to 
				blame. We complement our high-level engagement with more 
				practical assistance through a joint Department for 
				International Development, Ministry of Defence and Foreign and 
				Commonwealth Office peace-building strategy for Sri Lanka. The 
				focus includes people-to-people contacts between communities, 
				mechanisms to provide early warning of potential for conflict, 
				and development of civil society capacity to monitor conflict. 
				We are involved in all those processes. We believe that quiet 
				activity of that kind has an important role to play in these 
				difficult times. I know that many in the Sri Lankan diaspora 
				have been pleased to see Britain�s active involvement in Sri 
				Lanka. We believe the Sri Lankan diaspora in Britain to be 
				perhaps as much as 200,000 strong. It is important that we take 
				into account their views and insights as we try to formulate a 
				balanced policy on Sri Lanka.
				 Right hon. and hon. Members present will understand that 
				there is a wide range of views within the community on a way 
				forward for peace and the role of Britain in Sri Lanka. We try 
				to listen to all perspectives within the community, and we value 
				those opinions and insights.
				 Peter Luff (Mid-Worcestershire) (Con): 
				 I congratulate the Minister on his balanced approach to a 
				sensitive and difficult subject. He has been subject to calls 
				during the debate to recognise the LTTE. Is not it difficult to 
				do that when, for example, the organisation assassinated the 
				Foreign Minister, who was an ethnic Tamil, in 2005? As long as 
				organisations practise such blatant violence and disruption of 
				civil society, it is difficult to give them the recognition that 
				they crave.
			
			  
			Dr. Howells: 
			 
				The hon. Gentleman made that point well�I could not have made 
				it more vividly. The Tamil community has been especially 
				concerned about deteriorating human rights in Sri Lanka. Its 
				concern is understandable�many of its members have first-hand 
				accounts of the difficulties that their friends and family face 
				daily. Earlier, I spoke about the abductions, disappearances, 
				intimidation and extra-judicial killings that have regrettably 
				become commonplace. My right hon. Friend the Foreign Secretary 
				and I have made our position clear to the Government of Sri 
				Lanka. There has to be an end to the 
				culture of impunity. 
				Those responsible for human rights violations should be brought 
				to justice. We have welcomed the establishment of a 
				President�s commission and an eminent persons group to observe 
				the commission�s work. The British Government are funding the 
				participation of Sir Nigel Rodley, an internationally respected 
				professor of law, in that group. We shall continue to raise our 
				concerns with the Sri Lankan Government.
				 
					Comment 
				
				
				by tamilnation.org   
					 Many Tamils will find Dr. Kim Howells 
					support for 'a President�s commission and an eminent persons 
					group to observe the commission�s work'  follows the 
					line of  
					Amnesty's campaign for Sri Lanka to play by the rules - 
					so that 'just as cricket flourishes through respect for its 
					rules' armed conflict may also 'flourish'. The Tamil people 
					may be forgiven if they liken efforts such as these to that 
					of calling upon the fox (whether local or international) to 
					look after the 'right to life' of chickens in the chicken 
					pen. The suggestion that a nominee of the British government 
					which has banned one of the combatants in the armed conflict 
					as a terrorist organisation will somehow be seen to be 
					impartial may not appear credible to many.  After all 
					it is not only that justice must be done but it must also be 
					patently seen to be done. After more than twenty  years 
					of Presidential Commissions and Amnesty Reports,  the 
					Tamil people may be forgiven if they feel that such efforts 
					have served only to demonstrate that the answer to the
		consistent and systematic human 
					rights violations by the Sinhala dominated Sri Lanka 
					government will not be found in more Presidential 
					Commissions (and campaigns calling upon Sri Lanka to 'play 
					the game' refereed by so called  'international 
					impartial umpires' who will somehow disassociate 
					themselves from the strategic interests of the countries to 
					which they belong) but must be found in securing an 
					independent Tamil Eelam state where the people of Tamil 
					Eelam may live in security and in freedom from alien, 
					oppressive Sinhala rule.   
				Mr. Love: 
				 Considerable concern and criticism have been expressed about 
				the Sri Lankan Government�s failure to support the commission in 
				its essential work, with which the international community is 
				involved through the eminent persons group. What action have the 
				British Government taken to ensure that the Sri Lankan 
				Government do everything that they can to help the commission in 
				its work?
			
			  
			Dr. Howells: 
			 
				We have attempted, through all diplomatic channels, to 
				clarify for the Sri Lankan Government our determination that the 
				process should work. Sir Nigel Rodley is not somebody to mess 
				around with. He is a serious person, who will not take part in 
				the group if he believes that his investigations are being 
				impeded in any way. We have great confidence in him and in the 
				eminent persons group to see the matter through. We urge the Sri 
				Lankan Government to make their rhetoric on the need for a 
				proper investigative commission work on the ground. We shall 
				continue to urge them to do that and facilitate that work 
				wherever we can. Britain is a great friend of Sri Lanka 
				and the dire situation there is a matter of great concern to the 
				Government. We are determined to work with the Government of Sri 
				Lanka to bring peace. We are ready to talk to all parties to the 
				conflict if that can help with the search for a solution. I have 
				spoken of three things that need to happen to make peace 
				possible. First, the parties to the conflict must accept that a 
				military victory is neither possible nor a basis for a lasting 
				solution. Secondly, there has to be a credible framework for a 
				negotiated settlement�I hope that that can emerge from the work 
				of the all-party conference. Thirdly, there must be respect for 
				the human rights of all Sri Lankans and an end to the 
				culture of impunity.
				 Britain stands ready to help the Sri Lankans find a peaceful 
				solution to their conflict that will offer a bright future for 
				all their citizens. I hope that the House will agree that the 
				Government�s commitment to peace in Sri Lanka at this difficult 
				time has been genuine and that it will be sustained.
			 
  
  
			
			 
			
			Mr. Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (Cotswold) (Con):
			 
				I congratulate the Minister on his calm and balanced 
				introduction to the debate. We have had a good start to a debate 
				on a subject that evokes passions. It is important to debate it 
				in the House. 
				 
				Sri Lanka is a beautiful island with a population of 
				approximately 19.5 million people and it has been my pleasure to 
				visit it. It is rightly a popular tourist destination�it has 
				more than 600 miles of beaches, with resorts on the west, south 
				and east coasts. It also contains deep jungle and mountain 
				slopes, where high quality Ceylon tea is grown. 
				 
				Sri Lanka has an ancient and historic civilisation, some of 
				which I have explored through ruined cities and buildings such 
				as palaces, dagobars and Buddhist temples throughout the island. 
				I am conscious of the substantial archaeological interest in 
				various sites, including Anuradhapura, Mihintale, Polonnaruwa, 
				Sigirya, Dambulla and Kandy, where the glory of the island�s 
				past can be witnessed at first hand. 
				 
				I have been welcomed by the friendly people of Sri Lanka when I 
				have visited. It is therefore especially sad, given its natural 
				richness, that the troubles and deep divisions persist on that 
				beautiful island. I note that the Minister visited in February. 
				As he said, the problems have been going on for far too long. 
				The dispute in Sri Lanka does not get as much international 
				attention as it deserves when compared with Darfur, Somalia or 
				Burma. That is a travesty, given the long-standing nature of the 
				conflict. 
				 
				Its recent history began in 1975, when a Tamil, Vellupillai 
				Prabhakaran, began to form an extremist wing, which is now known 
				as the Tamil Tigers�the LTTE. The Foreign Office estimates that, 
				since that conflict began, nearly 70,000 people have been killed 
				and perhaps more than a million people have been displaced. It 
				is a major conflict in anybody�s terms. In recent times, the 
				conflict and death rates have escalated. In answer to a written 
				parliamentary question from me earlier this year, the Minister 
				said that there were 1,000 civilian deaths last year and 40 this 
				January alone. I also note that some 64,857 internally displaced 
				persons are in the process of being resettled. That is expected 
				to happen by the end of July. 
				 
				The conflict has brought untold misery to many more throughout 
				the country who have been injured, displaced or lost loved ones. 
				The international community should make renewed efforts to 
				inject momentum into the peace process. As the Minister repeated 
				several times, a political solution, agreed by all the parties 
				involved in the dispute, is the only lasting answer to the 
				problem. 
				 
				To begin to resolve the conflict, both sides must recognise that 
				that will not happen by military means. As the United Kingdom 
				Government discovered in Northern Ireland, there must be a 
				political solution. There will never be a military solution to 
				the Sri Lankan problem. 
				 
				Given the deeply ingrained feelings of mistrust on both sides, 
				resolution is not an easy prospect, as the Minister said. Yet we 
				should not stop trying. It should be our purpose today to 
				discuss what we can do to facilitate the end of the violence in 
				that beautiful country. 
				 
				There is almost daily violence between the armed forces of the 
				Sri Lankan Government and the LTTE. On Friday, three Sri Lankan 
				navy personnel were killed by members of the LTTE in a gun 
				battle in Trincomalee on the east coast. On Thursday, Sri Lankan 
				army troops launched an attack on the rebel mortar position in 
				the north-west of the country, where clashes the previous day 
				left 23 combatants dead. The sad truth is that similar incidents 
				happen every day and will probably continue to happen unless 
				something is done to stop them. 
				 
				As the Minister said, only five years ago, the position appeared 
				a great deal more positive, when the 2002 peace agreement 
				brokered by the Norwegian-led peace envoy was signed on 2 
				February. Both parties agreed to 
				 
				�recognise the importance of bringing an end to hostilities and 
				improving the living conditions for all inhabitants affected by 
				the conflict... bringing an end to the hostilities is also 
				seen... as a means of establishing a positive atmosphere in 
				which further steps towards negotiations on a lasting solution 
				can be taken.� 
				 
				Unfortunately, from that high water mark, it is clear that a 
				solution in Sri Lanka is in desperate need of a positive 
				atmosphere, demonstrated by the working of that peace accord. 
				 
				I greatly welcome and appreciate the efforts of the former 
				Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, the right hon. Member 
				for Torfaen (Mr. Murphy), who is present today. He visited the 
				country in November and met not only members of the Sri Lankan 
				Government but non-governmental organisations and senior members 
				of the LTTE. His wealth of knowledge of how the Northern Ireland 
				peace solution evolved should be invaluable to both sides of the 
				conflict. I welcome the friendly way in which he felt able to 
				discuss that matter with me. It has been a considerable help in 
				understanding the problems of Sri Lanka. 
				 
				I believe that the example of Northern Ireland is particularly 
				pertinent when considering a solution in Sri Lanka. For a long 
				time, the IRA pursued a violent military campaign to try to 
				force the British Government to concede to its demands, yet it 
				finally realised that the British Government and the British 
				people would not buckle to its tactics. Thankfully, we have now 
				seen an end to the IRA�s campaign of violence. The LTTE and 
				others should take their lead from the IRA and involve 
				themselves in the political process. The simple reality is that 
				no Government can or should give in to the demands of those who 
				would kill and maim innocent civilians. The use of violence to 
				make one�s voice heard is unacceptable in a civilised society. 
				 
				Independent reports of bombings, shootings, the recruitment of 
				child soldiers by the LTTE have resulted, as we heard today, in 
				the organisation becoming proscribed by the EU, the US, 
				Australia and India. The LTTE seeks to justify its actions 
				because it claims that it faces discrimination from the Sri 
				Lankan Government, while also claiming that it is denied the 
				right to an independent homeland. However, there is never 
				justification for a campaign of aggression on the scale that we 
				have seen. 
				 
				Let me turn briefly to deal with the role that the Sri Lankan 
				Government could play in this conflict. The Government are 
				internationally recognised as the democratically elected 
				Administration of the country. Equally, it cannot be said that 
				the Sri Lankan Government have played no part in exacerbating 
				the conflict. I think that the Sri Lankan Government�s decision 
				to close the main A9 road to Jaffna and leave it closed for such 
				a long time was unhelpful and I know that many right hon. and 
				hon. Members, including myself, called on the Government to open 
				that road during the period that it was closed. 
				 
				What makes the Sri Lankan Government�s decisions unacceptable is 
				that they have refused access to international aid agencies, 
				which bring much-needed humanitarian relief to the people of 
				that troubled north-east region. I know that the Minister met 
				the Foreign Minister of Sri Lanka and doubtless made that point 
				to him. I also met him when he came here in early March and made 
				precisely that point. 
				 
				Political representation for the Tamil minority in Sri Lankan 
				politics is another issue that needs serious consideration. If 
				Sri Lanka is to be capable of creating a long-term and peaceful 
				solution to its problems, engagement in an inclusive political 
				process is essential. 
				 
				The Tamil community has claimed for a long time that it faced 
				discrimination by the Sinhalese establishment. It complains that 
				it has been and continues to be marginalised and stopped from 
				reaching positions of power. I believe that the Government of 
				Sri Lanka should take that very seriously and should make every 
				effort to rectify it and foster a lasting sense of understanding 
				between the Sri Lankan Government and the Tamil population that 
				will ultimately lead to peace. It must be made clear that the 
				Tamil people will be allowed to share power and that their 
				political involvement will be welcomed. 
				 
				The best way for the Sri Lankan Government to defeat 
				insurrection is to offer the Tamil people a peaceful and 
				meaningful democratically accountable role in the Sri Lankan 
				Parliament. Those affected by the conflict must be desperate for 
				an alternative that will end violence, yet while no realistic 
				alternative exists, the LTTE will continue to gain support from 
				their populations. The Sri Lankan Government should seek to win 
				hearts and minds in order to cut off support to that base and 
				the extremists. 
				 
				I welcome the actions of the Sri Lankan Government�s security 
				forces, including paramilitaries, but they must be careful that 
				they are not seen to be abusing human rights. In that respect, I 
				welcome the independent group of eminent persons, which the hon. 
				Member for Edmonton (Mr. Love) mentioned, so ably chaired by the 
				respected Indian judge, Mr. Bhagwati, as well as Sir Nigel 
				Rodley and an EU representative. The work that this independent 
				acceptable group could do would be commendable. 
				 
				The international community is rightly concerned that the Sri 
				Lankan Government have not necessarily addressed serious human 
				rights abuses, including torture, being perpetrated by the LTTE 
				against civilians. The Minister recognised today that the LTTE 
				is accused by UNICEF and others of having recruited more than 
				6,500 children for its armed campaign. That is quite 
				unacceptable. As the Minister told me in a written parliamentary 
				answer: 
				 
				�Officials regularly make clear that the use of child soldiers 
				in Sri Lanka cannot be tolerated.��[ Official Report, 9 October 
				2006; Vol. 450, c. 453-4W.] 
				 
				I was very pleased to hear him restate that again today. 
				 
				Similarly, the LTTE continues to make allegations against the 
				Government. It recently accused them of killing 10 Indian 
				fishermen who had strayed into Sri Lankan territorial waters. 
				The Tamil Nadu state Government in India, however, confirmed 
				that the LTTE was responsible for killing the Indian fishermen. 
				Clearly, there is a certain amount of spinning and false 
				propaganda. 
				 
				How is it funded? I am sure that hon. Members will be aware that 
				the weapons used by the LTTE have increased in sophistication. 
				Indeed, it recently acquired a light aircraft with a range of 
				600 miles in which it was able to carry out a series of air 
				strikes across the country, damaging an oil depot owned by Royal 
				Dutch Shell and the Indian Oil Corporation. The LTTE hit the 
				main airport in Colombo earlier this week and the flights of 
				three international airlines�Cathay Pacific, Singapore and 
				Emirates airlines�have been suspended. Evidence suggests that 
				some of air raids were assisted by Canadian-trained Tamil 
				engineers. With an economy that is heavily reliant on the 
				tourist industry, the aims of the LTTE are obvious. It seeks to 
				cripple the island�s economy with its acts, harming the entire 
				island�s economic well-being. 
				 
				Where does LTTE funding come from? The US State Department�s 
				annual country terrorism report, published on Monday, suggests 
				that the LTTE finances itself from the Tamil diaspora based in 
				North America, Europe and Australia, as well as by imposing 
				�local taxes� on businesses operating in the areas of Sri Lanka 
				that it controls. 
				 
				As I said in my intervention, a chief fund raiser of the LTTE, 
				Karunakaran Kandasamy, was arrested last week in the United 
				States under charges of raising funds to support terrorism and 
				fomenting terrorism in the United States. The assistant director 
				of the FBI said: �Karuna hasn�t merely supported the LTTE cause, 
				he has orchestrated support in the US.� 
				 
				In a similar case yesterday, 
				the Australian federal police arrested two men under suspicion 
				of diverting funds intended to go to victims of the 2004 Boxing 
				day tsunami to the LTTE in order to buy arms. 
				 
				In addition to those two cases, numerous others demonstrate that 
				the LTTE has a sophisticated and complex international 
				fundraising network. The Minister was right in his response to 
				some of his Back Benchers that we would need to be incredibly 
				careful about de-proscribing the LTTE as a terrorist 
				organisation. I hope that the Minister who replies to the debate 
				will be able to tell the House what efforts the British 
				Government are making to work with the international community 
				to root out those who would raise money for the LTTE and other 
				terrorist groups. 
				 
				Mr. Love:
				 I have listened carefully to the hon. Gentleman�s speech, and 
				I accept the general thrust of his remarks. Will he confirm, 
				however, that the Opposition would welcome discussions with the 
				LTTE, and that they believe that it will be necessary to speak 
				to them if we are ever to reach a settlement in this conflict?  
			Mr. Clifton-Brown: 
			 
				I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman. I hope that my 
				speech has made it crystal clear that there will have to be a 
				political process, and that, just as in Northern Ireland, that 
				will occasionally involve talking�perhaps covertly�to people to 
				whom one would not necessarily wish to talk. Without talking to 
				the other side, we can never understand where they are coming 
				from, how a solution might be reached, what areas of common 
				agreement there might be or what the differences are. We need to 
				work slowly on the differences until we reach a solution. 
				 
				Peter Luff:
				 I hope that, when the Minister responds to the debate, he 
				will be able to confirm that our deputy high commissioner in Sri 
				Lanka is to visit the headquarters of the LTTE tomorrow to have 
				precisely the kind of dialogue that my hon. Friend has 
				described.  
			Mr. Clifton-Brown:
				 
				I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that intervention; I did 
				not know about that visit. Any such dialogue can only be 
				helpful. 
				 
				Mr. Davey:
				 Further to the previous two points, it is also important to 
				stress that the 
				ceasefire 
				agreement that was reached a few years ago was signed up to 
				by the LTTE, who was very much engaged in talks with Prime 
				Minister Wickramasinghe. It is only the election of the 
				Rajapakse Government that has caused a big deterioration in the 
				relationships. The hon. Gentleman is making some valid points 
				about the shortcomings of the LTTE, but it was engaged in the 
				peace process with the previous Sri Lankan Government, and it is 
				important to put that firmly on record.  
			Mr. Clifton-Brown: 
			 
				I have made it clear that I want to see an inclusive 
				political dialogue, and there can be a dialogue only between two 
				parties. That means that the Sri Lankan Government must also 
				become fully engaged in the process. As the Minister and I have 
				said repeatedly, there cannot be a military solution, so it is 
				in the interests of the Government and the people of Sri Lanka 
				that we promote this dialogue from all sides. Anything that the 
				international community can do to foster and facilitate that 
				will be a good thing. I do not want to get into the internal 
				politics of Sri Lanka�that is not our business�but I urge the 
				Sri Lankan Government fully to participate in the process. 
				 
				Before I conclude, I want to consider 
				the role of the Indian Government, who have a 
				significant role to play in solving the problems in Sri Lanka. 
				It is clear that there is support for the cause of the LTTE 
				among the people in the nearest Indian province to Sri Lanka�Tamil Nadu. I asked the Minister what 
				representations he and the Foreign Office had made to the Indian 
				Government to determine how we might stop some of the funding. 
				 
				I am sure that the House will join me in supporting the 
				reinvigoration of the peace process and the Norwegian-led Sri 
				Lankan monitoring mission�the so-called SLMN. We need to promote 
				peace through this means. I also congratulate the co-chairs whom 
				the Minister mentioned. However, a BBC news report on 30 March 
				said: 
				 
				�There was always the suspicion that the Tamil Tigers and the 
				Sri Lankan Government turned up�� 
				 
				to the peace talks in Geneva� 
				 
				�only because of international pressure and without any real 
				desire to talk peace...and a lack of progress seems to prove 
				this.� 
				 
				I do not know whether that it true or not; that is the BBC�s 
				view. Suffice it to say that anything that the British 
				Government and the international community can do to encourage 
				the Norwegian-led peace process has to be a good thing. 
				 
				There are some who say that Britain should take a stronger role. 
				However, I believe that the position of Britain as the former 
				colonial power opens us up to allegations of interfering in 
				independent territories. Similarly, the large number of members 
				of the Sri Lankan diaspora in this country makes if difficult 
				for us to take a bilateral role. Of course we should encourage 
				the Norwegian-led peace process and any UN peace process, and we 
				should welcome the all-party report that is about to be 
				presented in the Sri Lankan Government, but it would be wrong 
				for the British Government to take up a bilateral role. 
				 
				To conclude, I have a number of questions, and I would be 
				grateful if the Under-Secretary of State for International 
				Development were able to answer them when he sums up. What 
				further ideas do the British Government have to resolve the 
				situation? How can the Sri Lankan Monitoring Mission be 
				strengthened? In the Government�s view, does it have adequate 
				funding, resources and access to all sides in the debate? Do the 
				Government have any plans, during our chairmanship of the 
				Security Council, to raise the matter in the Security Council or 
				General Assembly? What direct representations has the Minister 
				or the Foreign Office made to the Indian Government, to whom I 
				have just referred, regarding the advancement of the peace 
				process or the funding to the LTTE from the main continent of 
				India? 
				 
				As I asked the Minister, is intelligence between the EU, United 
				States, Australia and India being properly co-ordinated, and are 
				the Government satisfied that all the necessary channels of 
				communication are in place to do that? I want to ensure 
				particularly that those who commit atrocities, who are well 
				known, should be brought to trial, and that external funding to 
				purchase the increasingly sophisticated weaponry that I have 
				mentioned is halted, as it seems to me that it can only worsen 
				the terrorist insurrection. 
				 
				Sri Lanka is a beautiful island�some have called it �the gem of 
				the Indian ocean��with a wonderful, friendly, hospitable people, 
				whose suffering as a result of this dispute is a monumental 
				tragedy. It is the responsibility of anyone who has interests in 
				the future prosperity and well-being of the people of Sri Lanka 
				to ensure that their actions do not facilitate further violence. 
				Above all, it is the duty of the international community to act 
				in a co-ordinated way to help to facilitate a much-needed peace 
				solution. 
				 
				Jim Dowd (Lewisham, West) (Lab):
				 The hon. Gentleman has justifiably spent much of his speech 
				criticising the LTTE and many of the outrages that it has 
				perpetrated. The human rights record across the island of Sri 
				Lanka is among the worst in the world. While he did say, in 
				concluding his remarks, that all parties must recognise their 
				responsibility, there was little in his speech that referred to 
				some of the mistakes, not to say excesses, of the Sri Lankan 
				Government, whose actions, over time, have produced a 
				disproportionate number of Tamil civilian casualties.  
			Mr. Clifton-Brown: 
			 
				I welcome that intervention. Of course, we should be totally 
				even-handed. It is wrong for outside observers to criticise one 
				party without examining the actions of the other. Of course, the 
				Sri Lankan Government have committed faults, as I said, and the 
				armed forces and special forces of the Sri Lankan Government 
				have committed human rights abuses. The Sri Lankan Government 
				must be clear that those are properly investigated, and anyone 
				in a position of official power who has committed atrocities and 
				human rights abuses should be brought to book and prosecuted 
				too. 
				 
				I hope that the hon. Member for Lewisham, West (Jim Dowd) will 
				not think that the Opposition have a one-sided view; we 
				certainly do not. Our sole objective in holding the Government 
				to account today is to try to bring the hostilities to an end 
				and return the island to its former status as a beautiful, 
				prosperous, happy and safe place with which we can do business, 
				with the diaspora in this country prospering too. 
  
  
			
			 
			Mr. 
			Paul Murphy (Torfaen) (Lab): 
			
			 
				I am grateful to my hon. Friend the Minister of State and the 
				hon. Member for Cotswold (Mr. Clifton-Brown) for their kind 
				comments.
  The interchange between the hon. Member for 
				Cotswold and my hon. Friend the Member for Lewisham, West (Jim 
				Dowd) touched on the issue of human rights, and that must be set 
				in the context of the 65,000 to 70,000 people who have perished 
				on that island in about 30 years. I will deal with the Northern 
				Ireland comparison later, but the two situations are uncannily 
				similar in terms of the proportionate number of people who have 
				died, been injured or been displaced: Northern Ireland has a 
				population of approximately 1.5 million, and some 3,500 people 
				died there. 
				 When I visited the island in November I was struck, as my 
				hon. Friend the Minister of State and the hon. Member for 
				Cotswold said, by what a beautiful island it was, and how 
				talented, courteous and decent the people, from whatever 
				background they came, were�certainly to me personally, in my 
				limited experience. Incidentally, I saw no examples of religious 
				intolerance on that island. Travelling late at night from the 
				airport to the capital city, we turned one corner and saw a 
				statute of St. Anthony of Padua, and turned another corner and 
				saw a Buddhist shrine. When I went to the north, I saw a 
				cathedral at the end of a street, and the sacred cows of the 
				Hindus walking in the same street. Of course, a substantial 
				minority of Muslims also play an active role in the country.
  
				I was struck by the fact that all those to whom I talked, 
				whatever their background or experience, were very complimentary 
				about our own country. I felt that, in accordance with the deep 
				relationship between Sri Lanka and the United Kingdom and its 
				people�not least, as mentioned by my hon. Friend the Minister, 
				the diaspora of 200,000 who live in our land�those on the island 
				were still very sympathetic to us, as a country and as British 
				people.
  I want to say something about the small role that 
				I played back in November, and to share my experiences with the 
				House. The President of Sri Lanka had asked the Prime Minister 
				if we could send someone to share our experiences of peacemaking 
				in Northern Ireland with the Government and peoples of Sri 
				Lanka. The Prime Minister asked me to go, as a former Minister 
				of State and Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, along with 
				Chris MacCabe, political director of the Northern Ireland 
				Office. My experience in Northern Ireland went back a dozen 
				years; his went back nearly four decades. His experience, 
				knowledge and expertise proved very important in our meetings.
  
				During our visit I met the President, a number of Ministers and 
				civil servants, the peace secretariats, non-governmental 
				organisations, the armed forces, different political parties, 
				bodies set up by the Government to consider the country�s 
				constitutional future and a panel of experts, and I travelled to 
				the north of the island to talk at some length with the LTTE. In 
				all those encounters, I met nothing but courtesy and 
				friendliness. I also met representatives of the business 
				community in Columbia, who are very important to the country�s 
				future regeneration.
  The message that I tried to get 
				across did not involve preaching to anyone, or telling the 
				people of Sri Lanka what to do. That would have been entirely 
				counterproductive. I think that the reason for the point we have 
				reached in Northern Ireland�over the whole 10-year period of the 
				peace process, and over the last few weeks in particular�is that 
				the people of Northern Ireland themselves created the peace 
				process and the peace settlement. Similarly, it is for the 
				people of Sri Lanka to complete their own peace and political 
				processes.
  In many ways, I was in Sri Lanka to tell a 
				story�a success story, I am delighted to say, and I am sure we 
				are all delighted about it. I wanted to know whether people in 
				Sri Lanka, within or outside politics, could look to us and 
				Northern Ireland as an example in bringing peace to their 
				country. The first message that I hoped to convey to the people 
				and their representatives was one that had been given to them, 
				only weeks before I went to Sri Lanka, by Mr. Martin McGuinness, 
				Northern Ireland�s Deputy First Minister-elect and the chief 
				negotiator for Sinn Fein in the Northern Ireland peace talks. He 
				had gone to Sri Lanka and said what my hon. Friend the Minister 
				has said: that no one can win the war in Sri Lanka, just as no 
				one could win the war in Northern Ireland.
  It is possible 
				to continue such a war, of course. More people can die, more 
				people can be injured and more people can be displaced. 
				Ultimately, however, comes the realisation that a military 
				solution is not possible. I say that without reference to either 
				side: it applies across the board, like our tests on abuse of 
				human rights, torture, and all the other terrible things that 
				have happened in that country. I lay no blame on anyone. I 
				simply say that, at the end of the day, military action leads 
				nowhere.
  How is it possible for those in Sri Lanka to 
				look to our peace process in Northern Ireland, beyond that 
				central message, and for peace to come to Sri Lanka? One answer 
				is that there must be absolute parity of esteem, the phrase that 
				we used in Northern Ireland. It means that all people must be 
				treated equally, regardless of their past or who they might be. 
				Every single idea or concept�some might be dotty, some good; it 
				matters not�must be put on the table. Such inclusiveness had to 
				apply not only to the constitutional settlement�that is being 
				worked on in detail in Sri Lanka�but also to the issues of 
				language, social and economic equality, human rights, freedom of 
				information and all the other things that divide people. Such 
				issues have divided people in Northern Ireland, and they do so 
				in Sri Lanka, and none of them should be excluded from 
				discussion.
  Another lesson that can be learned is that 
				there must be an international dimension to any solution in Sri 
				Lanka. I pay tribute to our Norwegian friends, who have done a 
				tremendous job in Sri Lanka in holding things together as best 
				they can. They have often managed to engage in difficult 
				circumstances where almost everybody was against them because 
				they were in the middle. This House and the Government should 
				pay tribute to the work that the Norwegians do, and we should 
				also pay tribute to the co-chairs. When I was in Sri Lanka, I 
				met the ambassadors of the EU, Japan, India and the United 
				States, and our own high commissioner, who is doing a good job.
  
				Mr. Clifton-Brown: 
				 On the Norwegians and the peace process, does the right hon. 
				Gentleman think that externalising the negotiations in Geneva is 
				the right way forward, or would it be helpful to have one or two 
				meetings in Sri Lanka itself? Does he have a view on that  
			Mr. Murphy: 
			 
				I have a view, but I would not want to propose it to either 
				side in Sri Lanka as a solution to things. I suggest that the 
				Northern Ireland peace process was ultimately successful because 
				it was held in Northern Ireland. There was also international 
				chairmanship from three different countries. People were 
				constantly working on a peace process. Members will recall that 
				people were elected to be negotiators in Northern Ireland, and 
				that they were, in effect, locked up in Castle buildings in 
				Belfast for almost three years, and they were paid, and had 
				support, to do nothing but negotiate. It is important that there 
				is that constant working at a peace process�as is the fact that 
				in negotiations people inevitably come together. They have to 
				come together because they are physically together and they are 
				talking together.
  That issue of talking is very 
				important. My hon. Friend the Member for Edmonton (Mr. Love) 
				touched on that. Even at the most desperate times over the last 
				30 years in this country, there were lines of communication 
				between those in Northern Ireland who were engaged in the strife 
				there and our Government. We should read the history books about 
				what happened over the past 30 years. At no time did the lines 
				of communication cease. That is missing in Sri Lanka. The 
				British Government and our allies should constantly press for 
				there always to be a proper line of communication. There is a 
				line of communication with the Norwegians, but another could be 
				set up.
  In Sri Lanka, I met the people who had been 
				displaced in the eastern part of the island. That brought 
				dramatically home the appalling tragedy for ordinary human 
				beings of situations such as that in Sri Lanka. We are talking 
				in this nice Chamber this afternoon, but the reality is that 
				there are men, women and children who are constantly and 
				severely suffering because of the lack of peace, and the lack of 
				a proper peace process, such as there was in Northern Ireland.
  
				There is an issue to do with the diaspora which is also 
				comparable to the Northern Ireland situation. We have talked 
				about what happened in our case. One of the key reasons why the 
				Northern Ireland process was successful was that the attitude of 
				the Irish diaspora�in Australia and other countries to an 
				extent, but most importantly in the United States�changed 
				towards what should happen in Ireland. Nowadays, almost 
				everybody in the USA�such as Irish-American politicians and 
				business people�has signed up to the Good Friday agreement. If 
				we can get the Sri Lankan diaspora across the world to have a 
				similar frame of mind�if they begin to think that they can sign 
				up to a process and then help the people of Sri Lanka 
				economically and commercially�that will be a considerable 
				improvement. However, that cannot happen unless there is a 
				proper ceasefire.
  The other great lesson that people 
				across the world, and particularly in Sri Lanka, can take from 
				our experiences in Northern Ireland is that a ceasefire has to 
				be meaningful. Only when violence effectively ended in Northern 
				Ireland did we see success. Of course, sporadic violence 
				occurred, and to a certain extent it will continue to occur 
				among criminal elements in Northern Ireland, but when the 
				fighting stops and the ceasefire is effective, everything is 
				possible. To me, that is the first and most important thing that 
				should happen.
  There is another, political issue. In the 
				past 30 years in this Chamber, there has been a bipartisan 
				approach and unanimity among all political parties on the 
				importance of the peace process in Northern Ireland. That has 
				not happened in Sri Lanka, but we should applaud the fact that 
				it is beginning to happen. If the political parties do not adopt 
				a unified approach, the issue of peace will become a political 
				football, which is the last thing that should happen.
  
				Mr. Love: 
				 During his trip to Sri Lanka, my right hon. Friend will have 
				received delegations from the Muslim community and from Tamil 
				communities who are not part of the Tamil National Alliance, who 
				are concerned that their voices might not be recognised in the 
				dialogue between the LTTE and the Government on a solution to 
				the Sri Lankan problem. The experience in Northern Ireland shows 
				that all the different political tendencies ought to be 
				recognised in order to reach a solution. Does my right hon. 
				Friend view that as an important part of making progress in Sri 
				Lanka?  
			Mr. Murphy: 
			 
				It is a vital part of the process. As part of the 
				peace-making negotiations in Northern Ireland, the tiniest of 
				the parties elected had exactly the same say in the process, 
				even though their votes did not necessarily carry the same 
				weight. The necessary will, trust and confidence also have to be 
				there. They can sometimes take many months�even years�to 
				develop, but will, trust, confidence, parity of esteem and the 
				equality of treatment of everybody, whatever their views might 
				be, are essential.
  I hope to visit Sri Lanka in the not 
				too distant future and to take part in telling the story of our 
				peace process in Northern Ireland. I am reminded of something 
				that Lee Kuan Yew said, which some Members might also remember. 
				When he was building Singapore, he wanted his country to become 
				something like Ceylon, as it was then called. Now, of course, it 
				should be the aim of everybody in Sri Lanka to ensure that their 
				country becomes as prosperous, dignified and civilised a country 
				as any other in the world. 
   
			 
			
			 
			
			Simon Hughes (North Southwark and Bermondsey) (LD):
				 
					I very much welcome this debate and the contributions of 
					the Minister and of the right hon. Member for Torfaen (Mr. 
					Murphy), the former Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, 
					given their experience in these matters. I apologise on 
					behalf of my hon. Friend the Member for Berwickshire, 
					Roxburgh and Selkirk (Mr. Moore), who wanted to be here but 
					cannot. I am therefore happy to speak on behalf of my 
					colleagues, and to do so in the light of my interest in 
					these issues over many years, having had the privilege and 
					opportunity of visiting Sri Lanka a few years ago.
					 My hon. Friend the Member for Kingston and Surbiton (Mr. 
					Davey) and other hon. Friends with London constituencies 
					represent, as I do, significant numbers of people from Sri 
					Lanka from all the different communities. Many colleagues in 
					the House are in the same position, so we have direct 
					day-to-day knowledge of the experiences of our Sri Lankan 
					constituents, who have lived out war and peace, death and 
					bereavement. Constituents of mine have lost sisters and 
					other direct family members.
  This issue is very 
					important to the United Kingdom. Sri Lanka is connected to 
					us through huge links of history. It was not only a colony 
					with which we had a trading background; there have been very 
					positive relations following the Labour Government�s 
					granting of independence to Sri Lanka and the first former 
					colonies after the war. Sri Lanka then evolved into a 
					republic, and since then many commercial, travel, cultural 
					and sporting links have been established. My only 
					light-hearted comment on this issue is to commiserate with 
					Sri Lanka on not, in the end, pulling off victory in the 
					cricket world cup final in the West Indies.
  Mr. 
					Love: At least they got to the final.  
			Simon Hughes: 
			 
				Absolutely�says a Scot. Thank goodness the competition comes 
				around again once every four years.
  I wish to start by 
				making two points, one from a constituency perspective and one 
				from the historical perspective. First, I became involved in Sri 
				Lankan issues because people came to see me about them. I knew 
				about the history of the issues from the books, but soon after I 
				was elected some Tamils came to see me. They wanted, as proud 
				people in national groups who do not have autonomy do, to have 
				the pride of running their own place.
				 The Minister of State has strong Welsh links, as I do, and 
				the Welsh are proud of their heritage. The Labour Government 
				have given Wales more independence and we will celebrate that in 
				the elections for the Welsh Assembly tomorrow. Further power 
				will be given to the Assembly and I hope that, one day, it will 
				become a Welsh Parliament. Colleagues from Scotland have 
				celebrated the fantastic devolution to Scotland of its own 
				Parliament and powers of decision making. The Tamils told me 
				that they wanted to make their own decisions, too, and that is a 
				laudable and honourable objective.
  I was sympathetic to 
				the Tamils� case and, over the years, I have met them and talked 
				to people who have been sympathetic to all aspects of the 
				struggle, including the peaceful and the military, just as in 
				the past hon. Members have been sympathetic to people who took 
				peaceful and non-peaceful routes in South Africa to try to get 
				justice for their people. As people who are far more eminent 
				than any of us, such as Archbishop Tutu and President Mandela, 
				have said, one may never agree with people using violence, but 
				one can understand why they sometimes do. I understand why some 
				people decided that they had no recourse other than violence, 
				and I have met some people who had taken that view.
  A few 
				years ago, I visited Anton Balasingham, the No. 2 in the LTTE 
				who had settled in this country. He died a few months ago and 
				his funeral was in north London. My hon. Friend the Member for 
				Kingston and Surbiton and I went to meet him because, as the 
				right hon. Member for Torfaen said, the way forward is through 
				dialogue with people on all sides.
  I have been to the 
				high commission of Sri Lanka and I have met Ministers when they 
				have visited, and I have always tried to keep open the dialogue. 
				However, the view of the Sri Lankan Government and officialdom 
				has sometimes been that I must be a supporter of the Tamil 
				Tigers and take the terrorists� view. I have never taken the 
				terrorist view that taking arms and killing people is the 
				solution.
				 However, unless one recognises that the people who are in 
				that position have the same right to put their case and unless 
				they are engaged in the process�as Northern Ireland showed they 
				have to be�there will be no peace. It is no good going back over 
				the terrible history of Sri Lanka in the past 60 years, with the 
				assassinations of Prime Ministers, Presidents and Foreign 
				Ministers and people living by the bullet and suicide bombers. 
				That cannot be used now as a justification for not talking to 
				people, because that will mean that no progress will be made. 
				 Jeremy Corbyn (Islington, North) (Lab):
				 The hon. Gentleman will recall that he and I have often 
				attended Tamil events in Trafalgar square. Does he agree that 
				the non-recognition of the LTTE�s presence in Britain is not 
				helpful? We need to develop a dialogue, as my right hon. Friend 
				the Member for Torfaen (Mr. Murphy) outlined after his visit. 
				The declaration that the organisation is illegal has angered 
				many people and does not help to bring about a peace process. 
				That is not to say that those people approve of the violence, 
				but they do want dialogue.  
			Simon Hughes:
				 
					Speaking for myself, I share that view. I understand why 
					the organisation was proscribed, but I agree that it has 
					been more unhelpful than helpful. The proscription of 
					organisations gives people a further cause to take up arms. 
					I remember when Sinn Fein could not be heard to speak�its 
					representatives were banned by the Conservative Government. 
					Did that reduce support for Sinn Fein? Of course it did not. 
					Did it make it go quiet? No. In fact, it gained support. 
					Banning people makes them go underground. I am sure that the 
					UK and the EU as a whole would benefit from the unbanning of 
					the LTTE if that were to be part of a package of movement 
					towards peace on all sides.
  Stephen Pound 
					(Ealing, North) (Lab):
					 I understand where the hon. Gentleman is going with his 
					argument, but the remarks of my right hon. Friend the Member 
					for Torfaen (Mr. Murphy) about keeping communication 
					channels open reminded me that Conservative Home Secretaries 
					met representatives of the Provisional IRA, even when that 
					organisation was banned. Does he agree that face-to-face 
					contact and open lines of communication are more important 
					than headlines about banning organisations?  
			Simon Hughes: 
			 
				I do agree. In Northern Ireland, the conversation was 
				sometimes carried on through intermediaries. History shows that 
				conflicts are resolved only by communication, often conducted by 
				people who used to hold high office and who are slightly freer 
				when they leave it. Those people may often not be well known 
				public figures.
  In that context, I want to pay a 
				particular tribute to the Norwegian Government. London�s 
				Norwegian church is in my constituency, and I have had dealings 
				with the community over many years. The Norwegian Government 
				have been assiduous in offering their services in these matters, 
				and they have done great work. I hope that they and other 
				members of the international community will be given the 
				opportunity to do more in the future. In the past, it has often 
				been people outside Sri Lanka who have been able to facilitate 
				communication and bring people together.
  I turn now to 
				the make-up of Sri Lanka, which is understood by everyone here, 
				but not by everyone outside. The Minister told us that the 
				island has a population of about 20 million, of whom about three 
				quarters are Sinhala. Of the rest, about 13 per cent. are Tamil 
				and about 5.5 per cent. are Muslim, with smaller groups making 
				up the total. However, it should be noted that people in the 
				various Sinhala, Tamil or other communities do not all share the 
				same opinion about matters.
  Three languages�Sinhalese, 
				Tamil and English�are the most commonly spoken. Nearly two 
				thirds of people are Buddhist, but there are significant Hindi, 
				Muslim, Christian and other communities.
  From the early 
				days of independence, Sinhala nationalism became the flavour of 
				the Sri Lankan Government, and Buddhism was given a particular 
				status. We in Britain must not be hypocritical about that, as 
				protestant Anglican Christianity has a similar status here. I 
				consider that to be unhelpful in our modern age, and believe 
				that no denomination or faith should have special status here. 
				The situation in Sri Lanka is certainly not helpful: if there is 
				to be progress, it must be accepted that all peoples, major 
				languages and faiths deserve equal recognition.
  I hope 
				that the Sri Lankan Government understand that, although I know 
				that they, like Governments in India, often depend on 
				nationalist votes. However, if Sinhala nationalism can be 
				justified, so can Tamil nationalism. An accommodation between 
				the two sides needs to be reached.
  Stephen Pound: 
				 I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way to me 
				again, and I shall try not to trespass on his patience. He is 
				giving the House the history of what is a sad, tragic but 
				utterly beautiful island, yet many of my Tamil constituents tell 
				me that the first Governments after independence were made up of 
				people from all communities, representing all strands of opinion 
				in all parts of the island. The unity Government were destroyed 
				not by a Tamil national movement, but by the sort of movement 
				that he has described, which was not based in either the north 
				or the east of the island.  
			Simon Hughes: 
			 
				The hon. Gentleman is exactly right. Sri Lanka became 
				independent in 1949, nearly 60 years ago. The 
				great consensus was broken in 1956, when 
				Solomon Bandaranaike was elected �on a wave of Sinhalese 
				nationalism�, in the words of the BBC. At that time, Sinhala was 
				made the island�s sole official language and other measures were 
				introduced to bolster Sinhalese-Buddhist feeling.
  That is 
				how the problem started. After independence, the majority 
				Government said, �We are the bosses now, and no one else will 
				get a look in.� That Government represented two thirds of the 
				people, and a 70 per cent. religious majority. The votes that 
				were cast reflected that, as did the make-up of the Sri Lankan 
				Parliament. As the situation in Sri Lanka in 1956 did not 
				resemble the situation in Northern Ireland now, where there is a 
				guarantee of participation across the communities, the island�s 
				Government have been able to impose their will on minorities. 
				Only in 1976, 20 years later, was the LTTE formed in response. 
				Eventually, Tamils in the north and east, particularly in the 
				Jaffna peninsula and along the north-east coast, said, �We want 
				our place, too. You�ve given us enough stick for 20 years.� 
				Since then, the Tamils have given as good as they got.
  
				All the independent monitoring shows that the fault lies on both 
				sides. I absolutely condemn suicide bombers, the use of child 
				soldiers and the terrible violence, but let us remember that it 
				started with the majority oppressing the minority. Unless there 
				is recognition of that fact�what Tutu, Mandela and others call 
				peace and reconciliation based on putting right injustices�there 
				will be no progress.
  Jeremy Corbyn: If the hon. 
				Gentleman checks, I think he will find that the issue started 
				somewhat earlier, with 
				the treatment of the plantation Tamils in the 
				early 1950s, which should have been a sign of the problems 
				to come�the majority language and the legislation to which he 
				referred.  
			Simon Hughes:
			 
				Indeed, the hon. Gentleman is right. He and I are roughly the 
				same age and it was at about the time we were born that the 
				Indian Tamil workers were disfranchised and the problems 
				started, but the really heavy Government reaction came a few 
				years later and it was much later before the LTTE responded.
  
				Bluntly, unless the Government of Sri Lanka, under whichever 
				President or Prime Minister, understand that without autonomy in 
				defined areas and self-government�there is a debate about how 
				that is defined, but the LTTE has said that it is willing to 
				look at options other than independence�there will be no 
				progress to a solution. It will not happen. 
				 Obviously, the solution has to be negotiated locally, just as 
				negotiations on the concept of devolution of power to Northern 
				Ireland were needed before there could be a breakthrough. There 
				was rising nationalism in Scotland�less in Wales, although there 
				was military action even in Wales, with the Welsh Liberation 
				Army and little bomb blasts such as the one in Tryweryn. Apart 
				from Northern Ireland, which was a big thing, we experienced 
				only little things in this country, but they show that unless 
				there is recognition of the need for autonomy there cannot be 
				progress.
  The Government of Sri Lanka must not run away 
				from the need to accept that there will have to be autonomy and 
				a democratic process. The people must be allowed to vote freely 
				and decide which parts of Sri Lanka should have self-government. 
				If Ukraine, which I respect greatly, can give self-government to 
				Crimea and life can go on, Sri Lanka must give self-government 
				to the Tamils, where they want it.
  Of course, that does 
				not mean that all the people in Tamil areas will be Tamils, just 
				as in Northern Ireland communities are not confined to 
				particular areas; Tamils will live in Colombo, just as Sinhalese 
				will live on the east coast and in the north. There must be 
				access. The roads have to be open so that people can travel. 
				There must be no no-go areas. However, we have to make sure that 
				the Government of Sri Lanka understand that they will not make 
				progress unless they accept the principle of self-government.
  
				Peter Luff:
				 What is the hon. Gentleman�s assessment of the LTTE�s 
				commitment to democracy? The apparent absence of that commitment 
				must be an inhibiting factor in ceding independence or autonomy 
				to the Tamils.  
			Simon Hughes:
			 
				I do not know the up-to-date position, I have not recently 
				had a conversation with the Tamil leaders. From the point of 
				view of the Sri Lankan Government, if I was seeking peace I 
				should be terribly frustrated. The ceasefire agreement was 
				broken and recent incidents are unacceptable. The lessons of 
				Northern Ireland are that we just have to keep on going. As the 
				hon. Member for Ealing, North (Stephen Pound) said, the helpful 
				things are the conversations and initiatives behind the scenes, 
				such as those taken by Norway, and, sometimes in the past, the 
				Indian Government or the British Government. The hon. Member for 
				Woodspring (Dr. Fox) was positive and proactive when he was a 
				Minister. I hope that the Commonwealth will do more and take 
				more responsibility.
  It is not encouraging when there is 
				yet another suicide mission or bombing, but all the independent 
				objective advice shows that there have been faults and terrible 
				actions on both sides. Therefore, as the right hon. Member for 
				Torfaen so wisely said, it is no good going back over history 
				all the time. We have to move on.
  Mr. Clifton-Brown:
				 Will the hon. Gentleman clarify what position he and his 
				party are adopting? Is he really saying to the Sri Lankan 
				Government that there ought to be an independent Tamil-led area 
				within Sri Lanka, or would it be part of a federated or 
				confederated process? What did he envisage when he made his 
				remarks?  
			Simon Hughes: 
			 
				I can be very specific. Our view as a party�it is my view 
				also�is that the conflict will be brought to an end only by 
				direct negotiations between the Government and LTTE and by the 
				reaching of a political settlement that allows for a suitable 
				degree of autonomy for Tamil people within a peaceful and secure 
				Sri Lanka. 
				 We have not argued for an independent Tamil Eelam. We have 
				argued for negotiations about autonomy between the Tamil 
				representatives and the Government. That autonomy will have to 
				be negotiated, because it has to be respected. It is absolutely 
				not for me, from here, to prescribe whether there should be a 
				federal state or a confederal state, but I am absolutely clear 
				that a unitary state with no proper devolution beyond what has 
				been offered so far will not work. Things have to go further.
  
				Of course there is local government in Sri Lanka and there has 
				been devolution. There have been proposals on the table in the 
				past, but that is no good if the President says that there will 
				have to be a unitary state, in the old-fashioned sense of one 
				state with no subdivisions. Our view is that there should be a 
				suitable degree of autonomy within a peaceful, secure and stable 
				Sri Lanka. If later the Tamil people voted for independence in a 
				free election�unharassed and without any pressure�that would be 
				a separate issue and would raise other issues. The world would 
				have to accommodate that through proper international 
				recognition processes.
  My party has supported both 
				Conservative and Labour Governments in their efforts to achieve 
				peace and it has supported the international peace processes. 
				The Liberal Democrats share the sense of urgency that has been 
				expressed. As was said, we now have an additional 
				responsibility, together with the international community, to 
				make further efforts to get the peace process back on track. We 
				can express a view here, but unless there is a formal process in 
				which people are engaged, there cannot be progress.
  
				Mr. Love: 
				 Does the hon. Gentleman welcome the process instituted by the 
				Government of Sri Lanka to draw on the views of all of the 
				political parties among the Sinhalese community to try to seek a 
				consensus, as the Government say, on a proper mechanism to 
				devolve power as part of a settlement?  
			Simon Hughes: 
				 I do. There is lots of good practice. As we all know, lots 
				of countries in the world are having to think about how to 
				accept the devolution of power in different ways. The French and 
				the Spanish have done it. The Germans started it after the war. 
				The Canadians are another example. These are difficult, tense 
				issues, and there is lots of world experience. We have done it 
				in the United Kingdom. People�s national identity becomes more 
				important, so they want more power. 
				 I have Tamil constituents, as do many of us in the House. My 
				next meeting with the high commissioner will take place next 
				week, with my hon. Friend the Member for Kingston and Surbiton. 
				We both also have colleagues who are councillors in our 
				boroughs. He will speak about his. 
				 I have a councillor colleague who is our deputy mayor in 
				Southwark. She is a Tamil and a Christian. She has supported the 
				battle for self-determination. She is not a terrorist. People 
				like that in this country, who have been supporters of the 
				struggle, often have a pretty hard time because of a very 
				ungenerous view�I am choosing pretty mild words�by the Sri 
				Lankan authorities. 
				 I regularly get messages that people who take that view and 
				are active in politics in Britain will be charged, arrested or 
				locked up. I just say, �Look, if you think that people in this 
				country have broken the law, arrest and charge them, but you 
				can�t win the argument in this country by seeking to suppress 
				the voices of dissent.� People of all views in the Sinhala and 
				Tamil communities must be allowed to say their piece. Perhaps 
				that will not be popular with the Government of Sri Lanka. Many 
				of us are not popular with our Governments from time to time, 
				but, in a democracy, people are allowed to express dissident 
				opinions.
  I hope that there will be a slightly more 
				balanced view in this country so that all people of peace and 
				good will, including the politicised ones who want justice and 
				have members of their families who have been killed, may see 
				peace come in their lifetime. Like others, I want to go back to 
				Sri Lanka and see a peaceful country in which all people can be 
				proud of their community, faith and background and in which the 
				terrible bloodcurdling litany of death and destruction over 20 
				years or more will have ended. I hope that Britain will always 
				step up to the plate, as the Minister has indicated we will, and 
				realise that we have a huge responsibility for our friends. In 
				that way, I hope that we will all have peace soon. 
   
			 
			
			 
			Mr. 
			Sadiq Khan (Tooting) (Lab): 
			
			 
				I have never visited Sri Lanka. My knowledge of the problems 
				in Sri Lanka stems from my experience as the MP for Tooting for 
				the past two years and as a councillor for Tooting ward between 
				1994 and 2006. There is a large Tamil diaspora in Tooting. In my 
				experience, the Tamil community has helped to regenerate Tooting 
				town centre and contributed to Tooting�s vibrancy. It has also 
				brought cultural enrichment to our community in Tooting and 
				Wandsworth.
  Members of the community first came to the 
				area as asylum seekers. Many of them became refugees and went on 
				to become nationals. Most of them then became British citizens. 
				They are proud to be Tooting Tamils. Tooting has a vibrant and 
				well-used temple: the Sivayogam temple on Upper Tooting road. 
				The White Pigeon charity on Upper Tooting road does a great deal 
				of charitable work in Sri Lanka. The Tamil rehabilitation 
				organisation is on Garratt lane. 
				 The South London Tamil welfare group, Wandsworth Tamil 
				welfare association and many other groups do a tremendous amount 
				of work not only in the community in Tooting, but in Sri Lanka. 
				In my contribution I will articulate the concerns that those 
				groups have raised with me. My experience of Sri Lanka comes 
				through the eyes of my constituents, many of whom come to my 
				surgeries to seek help and still have family members and loved 
				ones in Sri Lanka.
  As hon. Members have said, over the 
				past four months, fighting has continued to rage between the Sri 
				Lankan armed forces and the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam�the 
				LTTE. The 2002 ceasefire agreement that was signed by the 
				Government of Sri Lanka and the LTTE now seems like years ago. 
				It is worth remembering that up to 2002, the civil war in Sri 
				Lanka had claimed the lives of at least 64,000 people, most of 
				whom were civilians. Men, women and children were 
				indiscriminately killed and seriously injured.
  The Sri 
				Lanka monitoring mission made some progress. As the hon. Member 
				for North Southwark and Bermondsey (Simon Hughes) commented, 
				Norway deserves tributes for the role that it has played, but 
				the US Government, the EU, Japan, the Indian Government and 
				ourselves have also played a big role.
  Many of us have 
				used the BBC as our source of reference. It estimates that 4,000 
				more people, mainly Tamil civilians, have been killed in Sri 
				Lanka since late 2005, when violence began to escalate once 
				again, bringing the total number of people killed since the 
				outbreak of civil war to 68,000. I am grateful to my hon. 
				Friends the Members for Ealing, North (Stephen Pound) and for 
				Islington, North (Jeremy Corbyn) for reminding us of the history 
				of Sri Lanka and where any blame for the civil war should be 
				apportioned.
  Hon. Members will be aware that although the 
				LTTE was a party to the 2002 ceasefire agreement, it was�and 
				still is�proscribed under the Terrorism Act 2000 in the UK. The 
				US and India have also proscribed the LTTE and declared it to be 
				a terrorist organisation. In mid-May 2006, the European 
				Parliament passed a resolution in support of declaring the LTTE 
				a terrorist organisation. On 29 May, it was confirmed that EU 
				Foreign Ministers had decided to list the LTTE as a terrorist 
				organisation. On 31 May, the EU announced in a statement that 
				sanctions against the LTTE were in force.
  I accept that 
				in the UK it is open to the LTTE to challenge proscription using 
				the route set out in the Terrorism Act, and I understand that 
				when the Home Secretary recently met Tamil groups he made it 
				quite clear that any challenge would have to be made via that 
				route. 
				 I take on board the serious points made by my hon. Friend the 
				Minister, and it is right that they should be addressed. 
				However, may I tell the Government and colleagues that there is 
				a perception among the Tamil diaspora of double standards? The 
				House of Commons Library note states, in the context of 
				violence:
  �The main protagonists are the Sri Lankan 
				Government and the LTTE.�
  There is a belief that only the 
				LTTE has been penalised. The Tamil diaspora cannot be confident 
				that the EU is an impartial broker, following its declaration 
				that the LTTE is a terrorist organisation, and there are fears 
				that that will seriously weaken the Sri Lanka monitoring 
				mission.
  Colleagues will know from other debates in the 
				Chamber going back many years the arguments about one man�s 
				terrorist being another man�s freedom fighter. Concerns have 
				been raised by my constituents about a dirty tricks campaign 
				that is being waged against the Tamil diaspora in the UK. We 
				have all seen�and it has already been mentioned�the press 
				coverage on 21 April 2007, in which a representative of the Sri 
				Lankan embassy in London claimed that the LTTE was behind a scam 
				involving petrol station employees in the UK, in which credit 
				cards were cloned, PIN numbers recorded and money withdrawn and 
				allegedly used by the LTTE. On the other hand, Humberside police 
				say clearly and unequivocally:
  �Our evidence does not 
				suggest that there is a definite link with Sri Lankan gangs.�
  
				There is a perception in the communities of the Tamil diaspora 
				that allegations and aspersions can be made without their having 
				any recourse to try to clear their name. We should understand 
				their frustration, and colleagues have articulated the 
				snowballing of perceived unfairness, whether real or not, 
				leading to other forms of discomfort and actions that we all 
				condemn.
  Dr. Howells: 
				 We are not taken in by anybody�s spin or attempt to subvert 
				what we hope will be the even-handed treatment of all the 
				members of the Sri Lankan diaspora in this country, whether they 
				are Sinhalese, Muslim or Tamil. We are very well aware that all 
				sides are pretty adept at using propaganda to further their own 
				ends. We were not born yesterday, and we did not come in on a 
				pineapple boat from Sri Lanka. We know exactly what is going on 
				and we are watching it very carefully. We will make sure that we 
				are even-handed and that everyone receives fair treatment.  
			Mr. Khan: 
			 
				I welcome my hon. Friend�s comments, which will be welcomed 
				and received in the spirit in which they were made. He and my 
				hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for International 
				Development are friends of Sri Lanka, and will not be taken in 
				by spin.
  Stephen Pound: 
				 My hon. Friend has made many important statements on the 
				Floor of the House, and the statement that he has just made is 
				so important that it needs to be underlined. My own Tamil 
				friends, neighbours and constituents have been agonisingly hurt 
				by the statement that there is some sort of terrorist funding 
				scam operating at petrol stations. It is crucial that my hon. 
				Friend put that lie to bed, and it is important, too, that we 
				recognise that many members of the Tamil community work 
				extremely hard in petrol stations. We should be grateful to them 
				for their hard work and their contribution to the economy, and 
				we should not seek to spin them into an atmosphere of blame.  
			Mr. Khan: 
			 
				I am extremely grateful for that intervention from my friend 
				and hon. Friend. I deliberately made a point in my introduction 
				about the cultural enrichment that the Sri Lankan community has 
				brought to Tooting and London, as well as the regeneration to 
				which it has contributed. What impact do those press reports 
				have on community cohesion, if labels about the Tamil community 
				are so easily thrown around?
  Colleagues have referred to 
				atrocities in Sri Lanka, and they are right that the blame rests 
				with all parties�there is no single party that can be completely 
				exonerated. However, we must not ignore the fact that impartial 
				international organisations objectively confirm the atrocities 
				that have been committed. The UN working group on disappearances 
				commented in December 2005 that
  �of more than 12,278 
				cases of disappearances in Sri Lanka submitted to the 
				government, 5,708 remain unclarified and this is the highest 
				number of disappearances in the world next to the case of Iraq 
				with 16,517 disappearances.�
  The problem of internally 
				displaced persons and refugees has been mentioned by many of my 
				colleagues. The Tamil-speaking population of Sri Lanka has, by 
				percentage, one of the highest rates of internally displaced 
				people in the world today. Most of them have been bombed out of 
				a number of locations. Most estimates show that more than one 
				third of the remaining Tamil-speaking population on the island 
				are displaced and living in makeshift camps and welfare centres. 
				In addition, many others have recently fled to India, which has 
				already had hundreds of thousands of refugees from past periods 
				of the conflict and from the tsunami.
  The Tamil diaspora 
				represents one third of the Tamils from Sri Lanka and now 
				numbers over 1 million persons. The camps for the IDPs are in 
				deplorable condition, owing to lack of food, water, sanitation, 
				medical care, schooling and adequate shelter. Some of the IDPs 
				are housed in schools, making the schools for those local 
				communities unusable. In a moving contribution, my right hon. 
				Friend the Member for Torfaen (Mr. Murphy), the former Secretary 
				of State for Northern Ireland, mentioned the impact that 
				visiting the IDPs had had upon him.
  In its report in 
				December 2005 the United Nations committee against torture 
				commented on the atrocities in Sri Lanka, and in March 2006 the 
				UN special rapporteur on extra-judicial executions submitted a 
				powerful report. Finally in relation to independent 
				corroboration, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human 
				Rights stated clearly and unequivocally in December 2006, in a 
				powerful report that I recommend to all colleagues: 
				 �There is an urgent need for the international community to 
				monitor the human rights situation in Sri Lanka as these are not 
				merely ceasefire violations, but grave breaches of international 
				human rights and humanitarian law . . . In the latest phase of 
				its ethnic conflict, now more than 20 years old, Sri Lanka has 
				witnessed a re-emergence of some of its most frightening ghosts: 
				disappearances, abductions and killings by unidentified gunmen.� 
				 In Tooting, the White Pigeon charity, which does a 
				tremendous amount of invaluable work in Sri Lanka, tells me that 
				a few weeks ago White Pigeon�s prosthetic technical workshop was 
				bombed and destroyed by the air force in the Mullaitivu 
				district. The charity also tells me that the ongoing daily 
				bombing by the air force is adding many new physical 
				disabilities to the people with whom it works in the Tamil 
				communities.
  I am told by the Tamil rehabilitation 
				organisation in Tooting that there are 160,000 people whom it is 
				helping who have no food and lack water and shelter. The hon. 
				Member for Cotswold (Mr. Clifton-Brown) spoke about the A9 road, 
				which is a main road into the northern province that has been 
				blocked since August 2006. The blockage has prevented clothes, 
				medicine and food from getting to people in Jaffna.
  The 
				UK and Sri Lanka have a special historical relationship. Until 
				1948, Sri Lanka was part of the British empire, and since 1948 
				and Sri Lanka�s independence, it has been part of the 
				Commonwealth. Sri Lanka also has a special relationship with the 
				Labour party. It was a Labour Government who gave Sri Lanka its 
				independence. We have a special role to play in helping Sri 
				Lanka in its current troubles. I call on my Government to use 
				our special relationship to persuade all the parties and 
				factions to recommit to the 2002 agreement.
  I agree that 
				terrorism and violence, whether state-sponsored or not, can 
				never be the way to achieve a negotiated solution in Sri Lanka 
				or elsewhere. I am aware that the work that my right hon. Friend 
				the Member for Torfaen has done and will continue to do may lead 
				the way to progress being made. I am pleased that my hon. Friend 
				the Minister confirmed that any advice and help that we can 
				give, based on our experiences in Northern Ireland, will 
				continue.
  The international players must square a circle, 
				as the hon. Member for North Southwark and Bermondsey (Simon 
				Hughes) commented. Although they accept that extensive autonomy 
				for the north-east is the only realistic basis for a sustainable 
				peace, they do not wish to reward the LTTE for its actions over 
				the past few years. Once again, there are lessons that can be 
				learned not only from Northern Ireland, but perhaps from South 
				Africa. I am pleased that the Home Office has looked again at 
				how we treated asylum seekers, and I welcome the fact that Sri 
				Lanka has at last been taken off the white list of safe 
				countries. Its inclusion in the list was causing my constituents 
				and those of other hon. Members huge problems.
  An early 
				return to negotiations is crucial. I ask our Government to 
				continue to use all the levers, public and private, at their 
				disposal to alleviate the suffering of all the Sri Lankan 
				people, so that peace and tranquillity can return to this 
				beautiful island once again. 
   
			 
			
			 
			
			Peter Luff (Mid-Worcestershire) (Con): 
			 
				It is a great privilege, Madam Deputy Speaker, to be called 
				to speak in this debate, which is on a very important subject. 
				It would be possible to take the Panglossian view that the 
				affairs of Sri Lanka have no impact on us and are a matter of 
				local concern for that country on which we can turn our backs, 
				but that would be not only immoral, but blinkered.  I 
				therefore welcome this debate and I congratulate the Minister on 
				the tone in which he opened it. I was particularly moved by the 
				speech made by the right hon. Member for Torfaen (Mr. Murphy), 
				whom I wish every success in his work. I was also impressed by 
				the tone struck by my hon. Friend the Member for Cotswold (Mr. 
				Clifton-Brown), who spoke for the Opposition.
  What always 
				concerns me in such debates is where we should strike the 
				balance between what it is right and proper for the British 
				Parliament to say, and where matters must be left to local 
				populations to determine for themselves. I am thinking, for 
				example, of the parallel debate about Kashmir�a matter that I am 
				convinced must be left to the Pakistani and Indian Governments 
				to resolve for themselves, and on which it is wrong for us to 
				start prescribing solutions. I am nervous about some of what has 
				been said in this debate so far today. I am not even sure that 
				the Liberal Democrats are right to have gone as far as they have 
				done in prescribing a solution. The people of Sri Lanka must 
				have the opportunity to determine for themselves what they want 
				to happen.
  In that context, I fully support the calls 
				that have been made for dialogue, which is clearly an important 
				part of the process, as we saw in Northern Ireland. This period 
				has, however, been an extraordinarily violent one in Sri Lanka�s 
				history. There have been some 4,000 dead since 2005 and 70,000 
				or so dead since the violence began in 1983. To put that in 
				context, leaving Iraq on one side, about 7,000 deaths a year 
				occur in the world because of terrorist-related activities. One 
				can see howbig an issue the violence is in international terms.
  
				I intervened on the hon. Member for North Southwark and 
				Bermondsey (Simon Hughes) to inquire about the LTTE�s commitment 
				to democracy. Perhaps I did not explain myself clearly. I have 
				severe reservations about whether the LTTE is seriously 
				committed to a democratic process. Its leader is on the record 
				as wanting to establish a one-party independent Tamil state 
				without democratic elections. I see in the LTTE an organisation 
				that is led by a very dangerous individual whose techniques and 
				ruthlessness have caused great concern. 
				 Although I share the views expressed by all hon. and right 
				hon. Members in saying that dialogue is important, I question 
				whether the LTTE is an organisation that is capable of holding 
				such dialogue. I hope that I am wrong; I would like to be so. In 
				an intervention on my hon. Friend the Member for Cotswold, I 
				pointed out that our deputy high commissioner in Sri Lanka will 
				tomorrow be engaging in dialogue with the political wing of the 
				LTTE. 
				 I hope that that dialogue is profitable and constructive, but 
				I worry about what we are dealing with in the LTTE. It is a 
				sophisticated and well equipped organisation, uniquely so for a 
				terrorist organisation�and I regard it as a terrorist 
				organisation that can fight on land, on sea and in the air, 
				although it is wrong to describe it as having an air force; I 
				think that there is one light aircraft �[ Interruption. ] I am 
				told that there are five aircraft, but they have significantly 
				enhanced its fighting capabilities.
  Unless the conflict 
				in Sri Lanka is dealt with, not only will it place an 
				intolerable burden on the people of that war-torn country, but 
				there will be a danger that the LTTE�s techniques will act as an 
				inspiration for other so-called freedom fighters elsewhere in 
				the world and other terrorist groups.
  I am also nervous 
				about the suggestion made by my hon. Friend the Member for 
				Cotswold about the role of the Indian Government in the dispute. 
				We have been very careful about involving India in this matter. 
				I have in my hands a map from the Tamil Nadu Liberation Front. 
				It is a map of greater Tamil Nadu, which of course takes into 
				its compass most of the southern states of India, as well as 
				north and east Sri Lanka. We remember what happened last time 
				India involved itself, in a military sense, in the affairs of 
				Sri Lanka�it led to the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi in 1991.
  
				Mike Gapes (Ilford, South) (Lab/Co-op): 
				 The hon. Gentleman is aware, though, that there are 60 
				million Tamil people living in south India, and there are also 
				large numbers of refugees from Sri Lanka living in India. India 
				therefore has an involvement whether it wishes to or not, 
				because it has to take account of its neighbour.  
			Peter Luff: 
			 
				Of course, that is a geopolitical point that one cannot argue 
				with. However, India has to play its cards with great care. It 
				will find it difficult, for similar reasons to those that often 
				make it difficult for Britain to intervene in post-colonial 
				situations. In a way, the dispute has its roots in the British 
				colonial handling of this troubled island.
  
				Mr. Clifton-Brown: 
				 We all recognise that India�s involvement in this problem is 
				very sensitive, as well as what happened in the past when it 
				became involved militarily. Nevertheless, as the hon. Member for 
				Ilford, South (Mike Gapes) pointed out, there is a big Tamil 
				population in Tamil Nadu, and there is a suspicion that a lot of 
				support of one kind or another, particularly financial, comes 
				from that state. if we are to try to defeat this terrorist 
				problem, it is important that the international community should 
				include the Indian Government in discussions and 
				intelligence-sharing.  
			Peter Luff: 
			 
				I am sure that my hon. Friend is right. I sincerely hope that 
				that process is already happening.
  Fundraising is an 
				important issue for the LTTE. Two Tamil fundraisers were 
				recently prosecuted in Australia, which is causing great 
				controversy in the Tamil community there. The purposes of their 
				fundraising activity must be properly established by due 
				judicial process in Australia. It is unhelpful to see people who 
				are, I am sure, perfectly honourable Tamil nationalists 
				attacking the Australian Government for daring to challenge 
				those people�s fundraising activities. When I think of the 
				recent protests in Paris and Zurich by Tamil communities in 
				France and Switzerland, I worry about the presumption that 
				anyone who dares to attack the LTTE is in some sense attacking 
				the Tamil people. I do not see that connection. Similarly, those 
				who dared to attack Sinn Fein were not attacking the Catholic 
				cause in Northern Ireland.
  The fact is that violence is 
				always wrong morally, and also politically, because it never 
				produces the outcome that one seeks. When we attack the LTTE for 
				its violence, we are doing so for sound reasons. It is in the 
				Tamil people�s own interests that the LTTE abandon its violence. 
				I entirely agree with the hon. Member for North Southwark and 
				Bermondsey that the blame is far from being on one side. I have 
				here the Human Rights Watch report on human rights in Sri Lanka, 
				which graphically details the shortcomings of the LTTE and of 
				the Sri Lankan Government. 
				 Keith Vaz: 
				 But if an organisation remains proscribed and isolated, how 
				can it participate in a dialogue that could bring peace to Sri 
				Lanka?  
			Peter Luff:
			 
				That is a conundrum. I have to say that I support the 
				Government in allowing the organisation to remain proscribed. It 
				is difficult to see how an organisation that takes part in such 
				abhorrently violent activities�for example, it uses child 
				soldiers as part of its campaign of violence�can be anything 
				other than proscribed. The LTTE has an opportunity to 
				demonstrate a much greater understanding of the challenges that 
				that poses to Governments such as ours. I would welcome it were 
				the Government able to lift that restriction, but I do not see 
				how they can in the current environment.
  Justine 
				Greening (Putney) (Con): 
				 The key point is the trend in the escalation in violence. One 
				can make a comparison with the IRA and Sinn Fein, which became 
				far more formally linked in with the peace process in Ireland 
				after taking clear steps to show that they were withdrawing from 
				their previously violent past.  
			Peter Luff: 
			 
				We are in a chicken-and-egg situation. I fully understand my 
				hon. Friend�s point. It is always difficult to decide who should 
				make the first move in a dialogue for peace.
  Mr. 
				Clifton-Brown: 
				 My intervention on the right hon. Member for Torfaen about 
				proscription was important. The Sri Lankan Government encouraged 
				him to talk to senior representatives of LTTE and the Tamil 
				community. If such peace negotiations can take place in Sri 
				Lanka, it is much easier. When organisations are not proscribed, 
				it is easier for a peace process to take place.  
			Peter Luff: 
			 
				I note my hon. Friend�s comment, which speaks for itself. 
  
				I do not want Sri Lanka to become a political issue in the 
				United Kingdom through the presence of a significant diaspora. 
				That diaspora is here because of the violence. Its members have 
				been driven away from their island and are effectively refugees 
				from that dreadful violence. It is a wonderful community, which 
				does a huge amount for us. Estimates of its size vary between 
				150,000 and 200,000. Reference has been made to the work its 
				members offer on petrol station forecourts, but they do much 
				more than that. A phenomenally high proportion of the Tamil 
				community�some 2,500�work as doctors in the national health 
				service. They do a great deal for us and we should be grateful 
				to them.
  Mr. Lee Scott (Ilford, North) (Con): Does 
				my hon. Friend agree that one of the most important messages 
				that we can send today is that there must be a ceasefire? 
				Innocent people who have not done anything to anyone are being 
				killed on a daily basis and that must stop now.  
			Peter Luff:
			 
				I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. It is vital that both 
				sides take courageous steps to achieve the ceasefire that we all 
				crave. I have no axe to grind except that, when I hear of a 
				death in the name of politics, I am angry. I worry that today we 
				have heard criticism of the Sri Lankan Government for closing 
				roads to the north and east of the country, thus inhibiting 
				reconstruction after the dreadful tsunami. My reading of the 
				behaviour of the LTTE in those areas is that it, too, inhibits 
				reconstruction. It suits such a group to keep people in some 
				subjugation and blame others for their misfortune. That is a 
				familiar technique of tyrants through the ages. Although I 
				deplore any action by the Sri Lankan Government that makes 
				reconstruction more difficult, the LTTE inhibits the process, 
				and that may suit its political objectives.
  I want to 
				emphasise my concern about human rights more broadly in Sri 
				Lanka. I referred to the Human Rights Watch document, which�as 
				far as I can see�sets out objectively and fairly the problems on 
				both sides. It is a powerful account. I note that the Archbishop 
				of Canterbury is visiting Sri Lanka next week. The Christian 
				community in that country suffers considerable persecution at 
				the hands of the Government.
  The current edition of the 
				Foreign Office human rights report mentions Sri Lanka�s 
				anti-conversion laws and moves � to consolidate the position of 
				Buddhism by constitutional amendment and legislation that would 
				control �unethical conversion�, in part through criminal 
				sanctions. The bill, which appears to undermine the guarantees 
				of religious freedom enshrined in the Sri Lankan constitution 
				and to be inconsistent with Sri Lanka�s international human 
				rights obligations, is still being debated.� 
				 Things may have moved on since the report was written. It 
				continues by saying that,
  �there have been consistent and 
				credible reports of harassment, intimidation, destruction of 
				property and occasional violence against Christians over the 
				last three years... Sri Lankan authorities� lack of capacity to 
				protect Christians and members of other faiths, and their 
				failure to prosecute those responsible for inciting and 
				committing violent acts� 
				 are highlighted. That is an especially worrying example of 
				human rights abuses in Sri Lanka that are firmly at the door of 
				the Sri Lankan Government. For even-handedness, we must 
				understand that there are problems on both sides.
  We must 
				be careful about imposing�or being seen to or wishing to 
				impose�specific solutions to any internal conflict in a 
				sovereign state from these Benches in the United Kingdom. 
				However, we need to convey a clear message that terror begets 
				only terror, and violence begets violence. That is an iron rule 
				of politics and history. In a world hungry for peace, as we all 
				are now, it is my view that if the LTTE could bring itself to 
				renounce its terrorist activities and take the first brave steps 
				to peace, it would find that respectability would follow 
				remarkably quickly on the heels of such a brave and right 
				decision. 
   
			 
			
			 
			
			Keith Vaz (Leicester, East) (Lab): 
			
			 
				It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for 
				Mid-Worcestershire (Peter Luff) because of his great interest in 
				sub-continent matters. It always interesting to hear what he has 
				to say about countries other than India, which he has a 
				particular interest in. I did not agree with everything in his 
				contribution and in my contribution I will explain where I 
				disagree. What is significant, however, is that for the first 
				time we are debating these issues in Parliament today.
  
				Had it not been the eve of local elections in other parts of the 
				country�other than London�the Chamber would probably not have a 
				majority of London Members in their places. I realise that many 
				members of the Tamil community live within London and the M25 
				area, but they also live in other parts of the country�Leicester 
				being one where many members of the Tamil community have 
				settled.
  I want to pay a special tribute to the Minister 
				for the Middle East. This date was originally chosen for a 
				discussion between him and more than 60 MPs who had shown an 
				interest in Sri Lankan issues, particularly in what is happening 
				to the Tamil community. I think that he was surprised at the 
				level of interest and he decided, of his own volition, to put to 
				the Leader of the House the view that there should be a debate 
				today. That has proved to be a much better way of dealing with 
				these matters�having an open debate involving as many MPs as 
				possible on the Floor of the House.
  The Minister for the 
				Middle East is, in my view, a special and exceptional Foreign 
				Office Minister�not the usual type that we get. He is prepared�I 
				have seen him operate�to listen to views without necessarily 
				taking the Foreign Office line. On this issue, he has been 
				particularly concerned to listen to the views of hon. Members, 
				to understand them and to relate them to his own experience when 
				he visited Sri Lanka. I thank him for his special interest. His 
				remit is so large, as he has to look after at least a third of 
				the world�he would probably say the most interesting third of 
				the world. On the two issues where I have engaged with him�Yemen 
				and Sri Lanka�he has been very forthright and listened very 
				carefully to what I said. I thank him for his interest in what 
				is happening there.
  I also pay tribute to my right hon. 
				Friend the Member for Torfaen (Mr. Murphy). In all my 
				discussions with members of the British Tamil community, I have 
				found that they are full of praise for the work that he has 
				done. As we heard today, he has not taken sides on the issues, 
				but has focused the British Government on a particular problem. 
				I am grateful�and I think that we are all grateful�for the fact 
				that he has brought to bear his vast experience of Northern 
				Ireland, which must have been just as complicated as the 
				situation in Sri Lanka.
  Apart from his day job, which he 
				mentioned, he has allowed himself to go over to Sri Lanka in 
				order to be the eyes and ears of our Prime Minister and to 
				report back on these issues. I hope that we can formalise his 
				role. He may not want that, but I think that it would be a good 
				idea if the Government looked to formalise his role so that it 
				was no longer just on an ad hoc basis. He could be given formal 
				envoy status, which would allow him to play the role that we all 
				would like to see this Parliament get involved with.
  On 
				Monday, we established the House�s first ever all-party Tamil 
				group. I was privileged to be elected chair of the group; the 
				hon. Member for North Southwark and Bermondsey (Simon Hughes) 
				was elected vice-chair; the hon. Member for Croydon, Central 
				(Mr. Pelling) was elected secretary; the hon. Member for 
				Richmond Park (Susan Kramer) was elected treasurer, as was the 
				hon. Member for Moray (Angus Robertson), in his absence in 
				Scotland. That shows that it really is an all-party group, 
				because all parties are represented in this cause.
  The 
				group was determined not to be just like any other all-party 
				group. We were determined to take the issue forward, and on that 
				basis we agreed three things. First, at the end of September a 
				delegation of all party members should visit Sri Lanka, 
				particularly areas under the control of the Tamil Tigers, to 
				engage in a dialogue in a positive and constructive way. We also 
				agreed to invite the chief negotiator for the Tamil Tigers to 
				visit the United Kingdom and to come to Parliament so that we 
				could hear his views on what is happening.
  The third 
				thing that we agreed was to hold a summit meeting here in July 
				at which all the various parties could participate as a means of 
				exploring how to take the issue forward. Although we have not 
				had a debate of this kind in the House before, listening to the 
				experience of so many right hon. Members and hon. Members 
				reminds me that we have had many such discussions outside 
				Parliament. It really is time to make progress, rather than 
				simply discussing these issues from time to time as we do now.
  
				My hon. Friend the Member for Tooting (Mr. Khan) pointed out 
				that we are also concerned with the Tamil community here, and 
				that that is what drives us. Many of us are interested in 
				foreign affairs, but what drives us as constituency MPs is our 
				constituents coming to see us in our surgeries, at public 
				meetings and at various projects in our constituencies to point 
				out the contribution that the British Tamil community has made.
				 When my hon. Friend mentioned the Tooting Tamils, I thought 
				that that made them sound so British that they could be a local 
				football club. They are as British as you and I, Madam Deputy 
				Speaker, and they make a full contribution to this country. They 
				contribute to the economy and to the national health service, as 
				the hon. Member for Mid-Worcestershire pointed out. Almost 2,500 
				Tamils work in the NHS, not just as GPs and other doctors; one 
				of the leading pre-natal surgeons is based in a hospital in the 
				constituency of my hon. Friend the Member for Tooting.
  
				The British Tamils have become first-class contributors, and 
				they therefore deserve to have us debate these issues in the 
				House. For the reasons mentioned earlier by the hon. Member for 
				North Southwark and Bermondsey, they are constantly aware of 
				what is happening to their friends and relatives in Sri Lanka. 
				That is why they deserve to hear these issues discussed, and to 
				have them taken forward, rather than just discussed in the usual 
				parliamentary way.
  I was present at a very useful meeting 
				that the British Tamil Forum had with our Home Secretary, who 
				reminded us of the phrase�I cannot remember who said it 
				originally, but I am sure that someone here will know��One man�s 
				terrorist is another man�s freedom fighter�. I am sure that it 
				was not the Home Secretary�s phrase; he was merely reminding us 
				of it. This was in the context of a discussion on how to lift 
				the ban. I firmly believe that the ban on the Tamil 
				Tigers�certainly as regards the way in which they operate in 
				this country�should be lifted as soon as possible.
  The 
				proscription by the Government of various organisations in 2001 
				happened because of certain events that were occurring worldwide 
				at the time, and we reacted by imposing that ban on a number of 
				organisations, including a Sikh organisation that operated from 
				my constituency. I know that Governments sometimes have to react 
				in a knee-jerk manner, but six years have now passed and it is 
				time to reconsider the ban and to look at ways in which we can 
				help to ensure that the dialogue proceeds. 
				 I know that that is different from what the hon. Member for 
				Mid-Worcestershire suggested, because he believes that we cannot 
				hold discussions with people unless they renounce violence. 
				 As we have heard from colleagues on both sides of the House, 
				however, without such discussions we would never have reached 
				the stage at which we could look with mild amusement at a 
				photograph of the right hon. Member for North Antrim (Rev. Ian 
				Paisley) and Martin McGuinness�with EU President Barroso in the 
				middle�sharing a joke. 
				 Other right hon. and hon. Members who have had to sit through 
				debates on Northern Ireland, as have I, would never have 
				believed that possible even a few years ago. However, thanks to 
				the work of my right hon. Friend the Member for Torfaen and many 
				others, it has become possible. It is possible to move on, but 
				we cannot move on unless we have a dialogue, and we cannot have 
				a dialogue if we proscribe and ban the groups involved.
  
				Susan Kramer (Richmond Park) (LD): 
				 Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that many members of the 
				Tamil community who have absolutely no interest in terrorism and 
				who do not even consider themselves to be members of the LTTE 
				are inhibited from speaking out because they are afraid of being 
				tagged with the terrorist label? At a meeting that my hon. 
				Friend the Member for Kingston and Surbiton (Mr. Davey) and I 
				attended recently, there had to be a police presence because 
				those people were so afraid that they would engender enmity from 
				the community by holding that meeting.  
			Keith Vaz: 
			 
				The hon. Lady is absolutely right. It is wrong for such 
				people to be treated in that way and to feel that fear. Whoever 
				is spinning that fear�whether it be the Sri Lankan Government or 
				others�should stop. Participating in the British political 
				process is the right of every British citizen. Contrary to the 
				view that those people are here as asylum seekers or refugees�an 
				idea that has been mentioned�they are members of the settled 
				community. Clearly, some are asylum seekers or seeking refugee 
				status, but others are very well established here, and they 
				should feel able to be open about their involvement in political 
				meetings and the British political process. We need to make sure 
				that that happens. 
				 It is therefore important that we take a lead, for the 
				reasons mentioned by other Members. We have a responsibility, 
				the historical ties with our country are profound and, as we 
				have heard, this country gave independence to Sri Lanka. We have 
				a special bond and relationship because of the large community 
				living here and because of our previous responsibilities. We 
				should seize the moment. I am glad that my right hon. Friend the 
				Member for Torfaen is going to Sri Lanka again, and I hope that 
				the Minister of State will also visit in the near future, as he 
				started a process that he ought to continue. If he does continue 
				that process, whenever he visits, that would be useful.
  
				Dr. Howells: 
				 To reassure my right hon. Friend, I can tell him that I will 
				shortly go back to Sri Lanka, and I hope to join my right hon. 
				Friend the Member for Torfaen (Mr. Murphy) there, so that we can 
				take whatever measures are necessary to try to push the process 
				forward.  
			Keith Vaz: 
			 
				I am delighted to hear that. When I met my hon. Friend, he 
				said that my right hon. Friend the Member for Torfaen was his 
				best friend in the House. Sri Lanka is a good place for best 
				friends to meet, and if they manage to move the process forward, 
				it will be good business for best friends to conduct.
  
				Stephen Pound: 
				 I make the point with considerable trepidation, but my right 
				hon. Friend referred to the British Government �giving� 
				independence to Sri Lanka. May I tell him that several of my 
				constituents who have heard me use that expression have said 
				that they would much prefer the wording to be that the British 
				Government �returned� independence to Sri Lanka? I make no 
				criticism of the right hon. Gentleman, whose record is 
				impeccable, but perhaps we should consider using that verbal 
				figuration on the Floor of the House.  
			Keith Vaz: 
			 
				I am more than happy to be corrected by my hon. Friend, and 
				am happy to use that terminology in the House. If I lapse again, 
				I am sure that he will remind me.
  Peter Luff: On 
				the subject of correction, may I correct myself? I was seeking 
				to convey to the House not that such people were refugees or 
				asylum seekers, but that they had been driven from Sri Lanka 
				against their will, often because of discrimination, persecution 
				or violence, and many of them would prefer to have lived their 
				entire lives in Sri Lanka, rather than being here.
  On 
				another subject, is the right hon. Gentleman convinced� 
				 Madam Deputy Speaker (Sylvia Heal): Order. As the 
				hon. Gentleman knows, interventions are to be brief.  
			Keith Vaz:
			 
				The hon. Gentleman is allowed to make a correction, but not 
				another speech in the middle of mine. 
				 We have heard the shocking statistics, and it is right that 
				we should repeat them again and again: 80,000 internally 
				displaced people; 900,000 children, 15 per cent. of the total 
				child population, living in conflict-affected areas, and more 
				than 300,000 directly affected by the conflict. The figures have 
				varied between different Members� speeches, but I have been 
				given the figure of 68,000 lives claimed by the war since 1983, 
				with 4,000 deaths since November 2005, and, according to the 
				United Nations, more than 300,000 civilians displaced by the 
				renewed fighting as of April 2007. We need to take account of 
				those shocking statistics if we are to make progress.
  
				Yesterday the Sri Lankan President unveiled proposals to abolish 
				the executive presidency, adopt a bicameral parliamentary system 
				and ensure that both the police and the armed forces are more 
				multi-ethnic. That, however, does not deal with the basic 
				problems that have created the present difficulties. All ethic 
				groups should be treated equally, and they and their values 
				should be respected. I hope that those proposals signal a 
				change, but I do not think that the change will happen unless we 
				move it forward.
  I mentioned the Tamil Tigers and the ban 
				that we imposed on them. I hope very much that the LTTE will be 
				able to challenge that ban. When we met the Home Secretary he 
				said that one challenge had been successful, so they are in new 
				territory, but they certainly have my support in their desire 
				for a lifting of the ban. We heard that the Minister would be 
				visiting Sri Lanka, and that is terrific.
  
				Mr. Andrew Pelling (Croydon, Central) (Con): 
				 The right hon. Gentleman has spoken of our role here. We 
				represent many members of the Tamil diaspora in our 
				constituencies: there is a large Tamil community in south 
				London, for instance. The right hon. Gentleman has also raised 
				the important issue of abuse of human rights, which has occurred 
				on all sides�and, indeed, within each side. But another reason 
				for debating this subject is our real interest in the success 
				and prosperity of Sri Lanka, and in sharing in the great growth 
				that has taken place in the south Asian economies. We have a 
				global strategic interest in Sri Lanka. The Chinese are 
				investing there, and perhaps taking their own approach to the 
				balance of power in that part of south Asia. The United Kingdom 
				therefore has a self-interest in Sri Lanka�s enjoyment of peace 
				and prosperity.  
			Keith Vaz:
			 
				I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman, who is the new 
				secretary of the all-party parliamentary Tamil group. His points 
				are extremely valid.
  The debate is to be wound up by the 
				Under-Secretary of State for International Development, my hon. 
				Friend the. Member for Harrow, West (Mr. Thomas), who is 
				currently sitting next to the Under-Secretary of State for 
				Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, my hon. Friend the Member 
				for Brent, North (Barry Gardiner). Both their constituencies 
				contain large numbers of British Tamils.
  When we consider 
				the issue of international aid, I want to know whether when we 
				give aid to Sri Lanka, as we should, the point is made to the 
				Sri Lankan Government that it is important for that aid to reach 
				the people whom it is intended to reach. While we support the 
				Government in the aid process, they have a responsibility to 
				ensure that a dialogue begins.
  If we have achieved 
				anything this week in setting up the all-party group and 
				debating this issue on the Floor of the House, I hope that we 
				have created the climate and conditions for dialogue: dialogue 
				between Tamil groups, including the Tamil Tigers, and the Sri 
				Lankan Government; dialogue between Tamil groups and the 
				international community; and, indeed, dialogue between the 
				Foreign Office and the Home Office. I was very surprised to hear 
				from the Minister of State that he had not had a chance to meet 
				the Home Secretary to discuss these issues�through no fault of 
				his own, no doubt; I am sure that, given his Foreign Office 
				responsibilities, his diary is awful. But I hope that he will 
				meet the Home Secretary, because the issue affects both the 
				Foreign Office and the Home Office. I hope it will be recognised 
				that dialogue is the only way in which to bring peace to a 
				troubled but beautiful island. 
   
			 
			
			 
			
			Mr. Shailesh Vara (North-West Cambridgeshire) (Con): 
			 
				It is a great privilege and pleasure to follow the right hon. 
				Member for Leicester, East (Keith Vaz).
  I am very pleased 
				that the House has taken the opportunity to debate such an 
				important subject. With so many conflicts around the world, and 
				with our own armed forces engaged in so many places overseas, it 
				is sometimes easy to overlook the ongoing difficulties in 
				countries such as Sri Lanka. I compliment those on both Front 
				Benches for taking such a conciliatory tone in their speeches, 
				and concluding that there must be dialogue and a ceasefire. 
				Although the right hon. Member for Torfaen (Mr. Murphy) is not 
				present at the moment, I want to say what a pleasure it was to 
				listen to such an authoritative contribution as his.
  The 
				difficulties in Sri Lanka have arisen for a number of reasons, 
				not the least of them being the ethnic, cultural and religious 
				divisions between the Tamil and Singhalese communities. The 
				Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam or LTTE is fighting for an 
				independent homeland for the Tamil people. 
				 Tension between the Tamil and Sinhalese people has existed 
				for many years, but a full-scale conflict has developed since 
				the early 1980s, with armed groups operating in the north-east 
				of the island, the area mainly populated by the Tamil minority. 
				As we have heard, in the past 20 years some 70,000 people have 
				been killed in the conflict and many more have been maimed and 
				injured; almost 1 million people have been displaced from their 
				homes. There remains the ever-present threat to many ordinary 
				citizens of kidnap and murder, both of which have been a 
				continuous feature of the conflict.
  It is important to 
				remember that atrocities have been committed by both sides. When 
				in 1983 riots resulted in the death of 2,000 Tamils, it was 
				suggested by many that some of the blame lay with the Sri Lankan 
				authorities. On the other hand, the LTTE has long recognised 
				that fear and devastation can be caused by suicide bombers. It 
				has used that deadly tactic on many occasions, maiming and 
				killing hundreds of people�often innocent people. 
				 However, despite all the terror one thing is clear: both 
				sides have demonstrated a capacity for peace. They did so when 
				both sides approached the Norwegians to negotiate a ceasefire in 
				February 2002. Unfortunately, that ceasefire now lies in tatters 
				and the resumption of hostilities on both sides has led to some 
				4,000 people being killed over the past two years. There have 
				been particularly worrying developments in the past few weeks; 
				there is a real danger that Sri Lanka might end up in a state of 
				civil war. Recent military pushes by the Sri Lankan army have 
				led to the recapture of much of the Tamil-occupied land in the 
				north and east of the island and, encouraged by its success, the 
				army might well be preparing for another major offensive. 
				 It is noteworthy that on Monday 23 April The Irish News 
				reported:
  �Sri Lankan Officials ordered Norway�s 
				Ambassador, who is trying to mediate a resumption of peace 
				negotiations, to cancel a trip to the Tamil Tiger rebels� 
				northern strongholds for security reasons.�
  The report 
				went on to speculate that that was likely to mean that a major 
				military push by Government forces was imminent. 
				 Many contributors to the debate have spoken of the ban on 
				the LTTE acting as a barrier to dialogue. Nevertheless, it is 
				encouraging that some of the main people involved in the peace 
				negotiations�the Norwegians�are engaged in dialogue with the 
				LTTE and the Government. We must take comfort and heart from 
				that.
  Simon Hughes: One of the reasons the 
				Norwegians are still in such good standing is that Norway is not 
				part of the European Union so it is not collectively responsible 
				for the ban. Countries that have not taken the same view as the 
				EU and the United States are likely in some respects to be more 
				acceptable in the short term to assist in the process.  
			Mr. Vara: 
			 
				I am grateful for that contribution. It could be said that we 
				have both angles covered, as the Norwegians are independent but 
				they are also co-sponsors who have the support and assistance of 
				the EU, the USA and Japan.
  If the Sri Lankan army is 
				considering an extra push in the north-east of the island, that 
				is a worrying development as it will lead to further suffering 
				and loss of life. If the advances are resumed, it is likely that 
				the LTTE will wish to reply in kind, and it could be years 
				before there is a reduction in the violence.
  Meanwhile 
				the LTTE has started making deadly air strikes on both 
				Government troops and the infrastructure of Colombo. There have 
				recently been strikes on an oil depot and on the main airport in 
				the capital city, timed to coincide with the cricket world cup 
				final. The Foreign Office website describes the situation in Sri 
				Lanka as �no peace no war�, but the brutal reality is that since 
				the 2002 ceasefire the conflict has resumed and is in danger of 
				escalating to a much greater scale. The ceasefire needs to be 
				rekindled and the international community must make every effort 
				to secure it.
  Britain has a historical connection, of 
				course, with Sri Lanka, and we should do whatever we can to 
				bring peace to the island. I am mindful, however, that some 
				former colonies are wary of British involvement in their now 
				independent countries, which is why our involvement should be 
				handled with sensitivity, helping as is necessary and 
				appropriate. The Norwegians, operating with the support of the 
				USA, Japan and the European Union, successfully negotiated the 
				February 2002 ceasefire. They deserve our utmost praise and 
				respect, and we should offer them all the support that they need 
				and want from us. The ceasefire may have collapsed, but to the 
				Norwegians� credit they have continued to maintain good links 
				with both sides in the conflict, which may lead to further peace 
				proposals.
  We should also use our position in the 
				international arena to encourage other countries to press both 
				sides for peace. Britain has considerable influence in the 
				United Nations by virtue of being a permanent member of the 
				Security Council. Although we might sometimes have disagreements 
				with our European Union counterparts, we still have influence in 
				the Union. Nor should we forget our many friends in the 
				Commonwealth, who should also be urged to press for peace.
  
				India, too, has a major role to play in this conflict, not least 
				because of its proximity to Sri Lanka and its own large Tamil 
				population in Tamil Nadu. As India heads toward becoming a 
				21st-century superpower, it is important that it be included in 
				the peace negotiations because of its own vested interest and 
				its global and regional influence, which is increasing daily. 
				 Mr. Love: The hon. Gentleman might well be aware of 
				recent opinion polls in Sri Lanka suggesting that there is 
				greater trust in India�s performing the role of an international 
				good partner than in any other country in the world.  
			Mr. Vara: 
			 
				For that reason�as well as for the reasons of India�s 
				proximity and of Tamil Nadu�it is important that India is 
				involved in any talks that take place. However, given that 
				Norway is leading the way and has been successful in the past, 
				it should continue in that vein, but with the support of any 
				country that has the trust and confidence of the Sri Lankan 
				people. I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for enlightening the 
				House about that opinion poll.
  We have successfully 
				brought peace to Northern Ireland, a community previously riven 
				by internal hatred and conflict. The bombs and bullets of just a 
				decade ago have been laid to rest. Republicans and Unionists may 
				not yet have forgiven and forgotten every single grudge and 
				grievance from those troubled times, but they have stopped 
				killing. We can share our experience of nurturing that peace 
				process with the Sri Lankan Government and with the LTTE. As I 
				said earlier, it was a pleasure to hear the right hon. Member 
				for Torfaen discuss that very issue.
  However, before all 
				these things can happen, both sides in the conflict must take 
				action to stop the killing and mistrust. The LTTE must cease its 
				attacks and the use of child soldiers and suicide bombers.
  
				There is also concern about overseas funding for the LTTE. 
				Reference has been made to the arrest in Australia of two people 
				suspected of seeking to divert funds raised for the tsunami 
				disaster on Boxing day 2004, for the purpose of purchasing 
				weapons for the LTTE. Perhaps in his reply the Minister could 
				give us an assurance that the funds that were sent from Britain 
				after the tsunami were subject to checks to ensure that they 
				were not diverted. I would also ask the Minister to comment, to 
				the extent that he has the information to do so, on the written 
				reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Cotswold (Mr. 
				Clifton-Brown) on 9 October 2006, which stated that some �7.5 
				million had been designated to be spent in Sri Lanka on 
				reconstruction after the tsunami, but only �4.5 million had been 
				spent. Has more money been spent and are there measures in place 
				to ensure that the funds are directed towards reconstruction and 
				not used for other purposes, such as assisting parties to the 
				conflict?
  The Sri Lankan Government must also take 
				action. To start with, they could ensure equality for all their 
				people, as previous contributors to the debate have mentioned, 
				whether they be Tamil or Sinhalese. The Government should also 
				stop their roadblocks, especially on the A9 highway to Jaffna. 
				Only yesterday I was talking to someone from Sri Lanka who was 
				very concerned that his sister in Jaffna is not having even one 
				meal a day because of that roadblock, which is stopping 
				medicine, food and clothing reaching the people of Jaffna, many 
				of whom are innocent in the conflict.
  Susan Kramer: 
				Does the hon. Gentleman agree that as the Under-Secretary of 
				State for International Development will reply to the debate it 
				might be an opportunity for him to state that the British 
				Government, working with the various non-governmental 
				organisations in the area, are making forceful representations 
				to reopen the blockaded road? As the hon. Gentleman said, the 
				impact is devastating and is destroying communities that have 
				historically been well-to-do, but are now in absolute poverty 
				and dire crisis.  
			Mr. Vara: 
			 
				I thank the hon. Lady for that contribution and she makes a 
				valid point. I hope that the Minister will be able to say what 
				the Government are doing to ensure that the misery and suffering 
				that the blockade is causing ceases. If we are to have a 
				ceasefire, we need dialogue, and that can happen only if the 
				misery and suffering abate.
  The Sri Lankan Government 
				must also ensure that rogue elements in their army are not 
				acting independently against Tamils. Not only is that wrong and 
				a violation of the human rights treaties that the Government of 
				Sri Lanka signed up to, but it provokes and encourages the LTTE 
				to seek revenge. As has been proved time and again around the 
				world, not least in Northern Ireland, a cessation in violence 
				has to be a precursor to productive peace talks. A negotiated 
				settlement through peaceful means is the only way forward for 
				both parties if they wish to see their people prosper.
  
				Sri Lanka as a country has enormous potential for the future. 
				The people involved in the conflict need to recognise that the 
				future of their country lies in investing in its future 
				prosperity and not in bombs and bullets. In the 21st century, 
				the world�s centre of gravity is moving from Europe and the 
				Atlantic to the south and the east. Sri Lanka needs to ensure 
				that by continuing its conflict, it does not miss out on the 
				opportunities that this century will bring for all the people in 
				that region.
  Recent history has shown time and again that 
				most conflicts are eventually resolved by dialogue. The LTTE and 
				the Sri Lankan Government have a simple choice. They can either 
				continue the conflict, with many more people suffering and dying 
				on both sides, and decide to engage in dialogue at some future 
				point, or they can engage in productive talks now and prevent 
				the needless suffering and death that are the immediate 
				alternatives.
  It really is time for both sides to engage 
				in dialogue, to have a ceasefire and to ensure that peace once 
				more reigns in that beautiful island. I thank the House for 
				listening. 
   
			 
			
			 
			
			Joan Ruddock (Lewisham, Deptford) (Lab): 
			 
				I bring to this debate no expertise, and I have not been 
				fortunate enough to have a holiday in Sri Lanka. However, I pay 
				tribute to my right hon. Friend the Member for Leicester, East 
				(Keith Vaz), who has set up the all-party group, and I hope and 
				trust that I will be able to participate in it.
  Like many 
				other hon. Members who have spoken in the debate, a very 
				significant number of my constituents arrived in this country as 
				asylum seekers and refugees from Sri Lanka. They now belong to 
				the Tamil community that thrives in Lewisham, and in my 
				constituency of Lewisham, Deptford in particular. As others have 
				said, the families are settled British citizens, and they bring 
				a great sense of commerce and endeavour to our communities. They 
				not only run petrol stations but convenience shops, and play 
				various roles in the NHS and the IT industry. Members of the 
				Tamil community make an extremely valued contribution, and I 
				very much support their work. They also bring a sense of culture 
				to my area, which I especially enjoy. I should like to mention 
				Vani fine arts, where young children are taught to play the 
				sitar. It is the most wonderful experience to be at one of their 
				concerts.
  However, the Tamil community has a great and 
				continuing sense of grievance, and members of it have made me 
				aware of that for the two decades that I have represented the 
				area in this House. In that time, I have seen blood-curdling 
				films of the terrible atrocities committed against Tamils in Sri 
				Lanka, and I have sometimes felt completely unable to suggest 
				any way out of that terrible conflict.
  My feeling about 
				the situation in Sri Lanka was the same as that I felt about 
				Northern Ireland for many years. As a mere politician, I felt 
				that I could not propose a way forward, but the breakthrough 
				that came in 2002 was a great relief to the Tamils in this 
				country. Sri Lanka is a place of great diversity, and the news 
				that a peace process was under way was appreciated by people of 
				many faiths.
  For quite a while, no political meetings 
				were held in my constituency to discuss the situation in Sri 
				Lanka. On looking back, and having read the excellent paper 
				produced by the Library, it is clear that Sri Lanka has a history of absolute discrimination, 
				with the minority being oppressed by the majority ever since 
				independence. That oppression is so deep-rooted that, as with 
				our experience with Northern Ireland, the beginning of a peace 
				process is not seen as likely to produce a result in a short 
				time. If the Sri Lankan Government had been more determined and 
				committed to the peace process, or if the LTTE had shown more 
				flexibility, it is possible that more success could have been 
				achieved.
  I was therefore very distressed and alarmed 
				when last summer the Tamil community in my area asked for 
				another political meeting to discuss the appalling outbreaks of 
				violence that had taken place. I went to that meeting, and heard 
				about the many grievances that people had. I also heard the 
				horror stories about what people in Jaffna had suffered. There 
				was a lack of food and medicine in the city, and people who 
				previously had been entirely self-sufficient were now relying on 
				people from Britain to get to them the drugs, money and so on 
				that they needed. It is a matter of enormous concern to me, as 
				it is to all Members who have contributed today, that the 
				violence has continued to escalate and to add to the terrible 
				toll of previous decades.
  It would appear that the 
				hardliners on both sides are now in the ascendancy. I have been 
				reading the catalogue of events that took place between January 
				and April. The army has made significant progress in the east. 
				Many towns and villages that were controlled by the LTTE are 
				apparently now under the administration of the Karuna faction, 
				which Human Rights Watch has alleged continues to recruit child 
				soldiers, like its erstwhile allies in the LTTE. Defence 
				expenditure, in a country that can hardly afford it, reportedly 
				rose by 30 per cent. in 2006. The LTTE�s capacity to retaliate 
				has not entirely diminished, either. In recent weeks, as we have 
				heard, it has shown that it has acquired some air capability by 
				launching two aircraft attacks.
  I shall repeat what many 
				colleagues have said today. Recent estimates suggest that about 
				4,000 more people have been killed in Sri Lanka since late 2005, 
				bringing the total killed since the outbreak of the civil war to 
				68,000. In addition, many people have suffered injuries that 
				will affect the rest of their lives, and tens of thousands of 
				people have been displaced from their homes and are no longer 
				able to carry on a normal existence.
  We are all grateful 
				for the Norwegian-led peace efforts and I pay tribute to them. 
				It is incredibly important that the Norwegians stay in Sri Lanka 
				and that they do not take sides. It is also important that both 
				sides in the conflict�the Government and the LTTE�have said that 
				they would be willing to return to negotiations, although in 
				truth we do not see that there is much prospect of that at the 
				moment. That is why we all encourage the efforts of the UK 
				Government, and particularly those of my right hon. Friend the 
				Member for Torfaen (Mr. Murphy).
  I want to ask Ministers 
				some questions that have been put to me by my constituents. I 
				asked one in a formal parliamentary question last year about aid 
				following the tsunami. In October, I received a detailed reply 
				from my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for 
				International Development about the amount of aid and where and 
				on what it was to be disbursed. I hope that in his winding-up 
				speech he will tell us how that aid was distributed. As others 
				have said, it is critically important for us to know that the 
				aid was distributed fairly to the people most in need and that 
				aid destined for Tamil areas was not impeded by the Government 
				or the LTTE. I hope my hon. Friend can give us some assurance 
				about that.
  A point made by one my constituents was that 
				we should not supply aid at all in the prevailing situation in 
				Sri Lanka. I disagree with that view, so I hope my hon. Friend 
				can tell the House why it is important that we continue to give 
				aid and that the aid is�we hope�used effectively.
  
				Stephen Pound: My hon. Friend speaks with the great 
				authority of a constituency representative of many members of 
				the Sri Lankan community. Like her, I have had visits from 
				community representatives who have noted that Her Majesty�s 
				Government in fact withheld 50 per cent. of the aid agreed, 
				because the final delivery mechanism could not be guaranteed. 
				Does my hon. Friend agree with me and many representatives of 
				the community that we should withhold the entire aid package 
				until we can guarantee that it will reach the people for whom it 
				is intended and not subsidise those who may be oppressing them?  
			Joan Ruddock: 
			 
				I take the points that my hon. Friend has raised very 
				seriously, because this is a real debate. I just remarked that I 
				did not agree with the proposition that aid should be stopped, 
				but in deciding which of us is making the right argument I will 
				be dependent on the Minister�s response at the end of the 
				debate. We need to know where the aid is going and how it is 
				being used to know whether we can justify continuing it. If we 
				cannot justify that, we need to think about what other 
				mechanisms exist. Could we use multilateral aid or other 
				institutions? Are there vehicles through which some assistance 
				could be given? I look forward to my hon. Friend�s contribution. 
				 My next point is perhaps not for my hon. Friend, but for 
				those in government. I want to refer to another issue raised by 
				my constituents: export licences. Inquiries that I have made 
				reveal that �7 million-worth of arms were licensed for delivery 
				to Sri Lanka in the last quarter for which figures are 
				available. The licences were for, for example, armoured 
				all-wheel drive vehicles, components for heavy machine guns, 
				components for military distress signalling equipment, and many 
				other types of equipment, including military aircraft ground 
				equipment and communications equipment, and small arms 
				ammunition. All of that is military equipment that could 
				conceivably be used in the conflict. I know that our Government 
				have obeyed the rules�the EU and the national criteria by which 
				we agree export licences. There is no question of wrongdoing. 
				However, the issue has been raised by members of the Tamil 
				community and I ask the Minister to consider whether those 
				export licences and similar licences should continue when a live 
				conflict is clearly under way in the country.
  
				Constituents have asked me to raise other points, both for our 
				Government and, in particular, for the Government of Sri Lanka. 
				Other Members have referred to the need to ensure that there is 
				effective human rights monitoring. We know that there is a 
				culture of impunity in the country, that the police do not 
				investigate, and that charges are dropped. It is critical that 
				the many disappearances are properly investigated and that the 
				extra-judicial killings, which everyone knows go on in Sri Lanka 
				and which are undertaken by both Government forces and funded 
				paramilitaries, are investigated.
  Many people have spoken 
				today about the need to recognise the LTTE. There are people in 
				my community who believe that that is very important and that it 
				should be done. It is critical�whether or not it is 
				recognised�to enter into dialogue. That is one thing that is 
				constantly being demanded of our Government by my Tamil 
				community. People think that the Government should be more 
				proactive and should somehow try to engage more with all sides. 
				I was delighted to hear my hon. Friend the Minister for the 
				Middle East tell us of the efforts that he is making in that 
				regard and give us the assurance that those efforts will 
				continue and apparently increase.
  Another point that my 
				constituents have asked me to raise relates to the need for the 
				Sri Lankan Government to demonstrate their commitment to a peace 
				settlement by withdrawing to the 2002 ceasefire positions. There 
				is a need to support Amnesty International�s call to �play by 
				the rules�, to investigate the murders and abductions of 
				politicians, many of whom were sympathetic to the Tamil cause, 
				and to investigate extortion and the abduction of Tamil business 
				people by the paramilitaries and armed forces. The Sri Lankan 
				Government should not force civilians to settle in areas of 
				conflict as human shields against their will. The armed forces 
				should be vacated from people�s houses and compensation should 
				be paid for those people�s suffering. Those guilty of war crimes 
				should be brought to the International Court of Justice. My 
				constituents also make a plea to us and to the rest of the 
				European Community not to curb the peaceful and democratic 
				activities of Tamils living in the diaspora.
  I have 
				particularly been asked to raise those points in today�s debate. 
				I have done so in tribute to members of my Tamil community, to 
				the contribution that they make in our society and to their 
				entirely justified search for justice and equality for the 
				people of their community in their home country, which is where 
				many of them would wish to be and where many of them have family 
				and friends. I know that all of us would want proper respect in 
				that country for all minorities and religions. We have learned 
				lessons with such pain in Northern Ireland, and we want to see 
				the same kind of positive result that we are about to enjoy in 
				these islands. I thank the Ministers for making this enormously 
				important debate possible. There has been unanimity in the House 
				on the fact that human rights are indivisible and apply to all 
				nations.
  Mr. Clifton-Brown: Will the hon. Lady 
				give way?  
			Joan Ruddock: 
			 
				I was about to conclude my speech, but I shall willingly give 
				way.
  Mr. Clifton-Brown: As the hon. Lady knows, 
				the presidential commission is investigating several of the 
				allegations that she has mentioned and is being observed by the 
				international group of eminent persons, to which I referred in 
				my speech. Does she support that process? Is it not essential 
				that the process is thorough and that it concludes as soon as 
				possible?  
			Joan Ruddock: 
			 
				Of course I would be supportive of that process. There will 
				always be a range of views on how such investigations and 
				inquiries are best carried out. However, we have a mechanism in 
				place; let us see whether it can work and produce real 
				accountability and conclusions that the international community 
				can sign up to and support.
  We should call on all sides 
				to resume the ceasefire. This might not be total war, but it is 
				in no way peace. The process must be restarted effectively.  
			Several hon. Members rose � Mr. Deputy Speaker (Sir Alan 
Haselhurst): 
			 
				Order. Before I call the next hon. Member, may I tell the 
				House that Back-Bench speeches have been averaging 16 minutes. 
				If the Minister is going to be given sufficient time to answer 
				the points raised in the debate, it would be helpful if that 
				average were brought down a little so that all the remaining 
				Members who are seeking to catch my eye may contribute to the 
				debate. 
   
			 
			
			 
			
			Justine Greening (Putney) (Con): 
			 
				I will certainly take note of your comments, Mr. Deputy 
				Speaker.
  Like many Members who have spoken, I have 
				constituents with deep concerns, many of whom have come to my 
				surgery to express their worry about what is happening to many 
				of their relatives in Sri Lanka. Some of them are Tamils, but my 
				Ahmadiyya Muslim community has recently expressed concerns about 
				the Muslim community in Sri Lanka. 
				 I agree with a point made by my hon. Friend the Member for 
				Mid-Worcestershire (Peter Luff): it is easy for us to give our 
				views on what should happen in Sri Lanka. I intend to cite the 
				concerns that my constituents have expressed to me, although I 
				will perhaps fall short of saying what should be done, except by 
				noting that a diplomatic and non-violent solution will be needed 
				to find a long-term way out of the tragic situation in Sri 
				Lanka.
  There is no doubt that Sri Lanka has suffered as a 
				country for a number of decades and that it continues to do so. 
				Some 3,000 civilians have been killed in the conflict since the 
				resumption of armed hostilities in 2006. As hon. Members have 
				said, 68,000 people have been killed since the start of the 
				conflict. There is no doubt that that has brought immense 
				personal hardship to many people who have been displaced across 
				the country�some 0.5 million in Sri Lanka have been displaced as 
				a result of the conflict. I want to refer in particular to the 
				tsunami, which added another 140,000 displaced people to the 
				total of 0.5 million. Many of us who were aware of the troubles 
				in Sri Lanka hoped that that tragedy on Boxing day 2004 would 
				bring the country together and provide a common humanitarian 
				cause so that people could set aside political differences and 
				focus on what was required for the good of the whole country. It 
				is unfortunate that, in retrospect, that did not happen, and I 
				am concerned about what that means for, dare I say, ordinary Sri 
				Lankans caught up in the conflict. Constituents who come to see 
				me are particularly concerned about falling literacy rates among 
				Sri Lankan children, whose education is constantly disrupted. 
				 As we have heard, there are many human rights problems, and 
				the Human Rights Watch briefing to which reference was made 
				earlier in the debate provides a great deal of evidence of an 
				increase in communal violence between different ethnic groups in 
				Sri Lanka, which is a matter of deep concern. The tsunami was a 
				particular tragedy for Sri Lanka, because there was a ceasefire 
				in 2002. Again, to make a comparison with Northern Ireland, I 
				believe that the economic prosperity that resulted from 
				political stability was one of the main reasons why people in 
				Northern Ireland were not prepared to go back to the conflict, 
				bombs and violence of the past. It is truly unfortunate that the 
				tsunami may well prevent that bedding-down or entrenching of the 
				economic development and benefits across Sri Lanka that might 
				have made people less quick to become involved in armed conflict 
				as a result of what they regarded as oppression.
  I do not 
				think that there is a military solution to the problems in Sri 
				Lanka. Surely, what must happen is a return to the ceasefire and 
				discussion. That has proved to be the way forward in Northern 
				Ireland, which is close to many of our hearts, and it is almost 
				certainly the way forward in Sri Lanka. Democracy is surely the 
				route through which people across the country can air their 
				concerns, and it will enable Sri Lanka to recover in both 
				economic and humanitarian terms after the tsunami and its 
				effects. There is no doubt that that is the only route by 
				which Sri Lanka can take advantage of the massive opportunities 
				for economic growth in that part of the world. I can only hope 
				on behalf of my constituents, who have many relatives in Sri 
				Lanka�many of them do extremely valuable jobs in our community 
				but they would almost certainly like to be able to do them in 
				their original community in Sri Lanka with their own 
				families�that if our debate has done nothing else today, it has 
				highlighted our concerns as a neighbour on the planet as well as 
				our desire to work with Sri Lanka and all the groups there to 
				see an end to the situation and the violence that so many people 
				who live there face on a day-to-day basis. 
   
			 
			
			 
			
			Mr. Neil Gerrard (Walthamstow) (Lab):
			 
				I am extremely pleased that we have had this debate this 
				afternoon, as it is a long, long time since there was a debate 
				on Sri Lanka in the House. Like many other hon. Members who have 
				come to the Chamber to take part, I have a very significant 
				number of Tamil constituents who, over the years, have talked to 
				me about their concerns about the situation in Sri Lanka. Of 
				course, it is a long-standing problem, and in its present form, 
				the violence goes back over 20 years. The serious violence that 
				occurred in 1983 was one of the factors that led to many members 
				of the Tamil community coming to this country. There have been 
				periods of hope, and as a result of the good work of the 
				Norwegian Government there have been ceasefires. The ceasefire 
				that was put in place in 2002 with high hopes clearly has not 
				lasted and is in serious trouble.
  I shall not labour the 
				points that have already been made�that the only way a solution 
				will be reached is through negotiation, and that that must 
				involve the LTTE. There is no question about that. A solution 
				will not be reached without negotiations that involve the LTTE. 
				That is true whether that organisation is recognised or banned 
				in the UK. Reference has been made to keeping lines of 
				communication open. I think it is not particularly helpful that 
				the LTTE is banned, although I am under no illusion about some 
				of the things that it has done and still does, such as the 
				involvement of child soldiers, about which we have heard. I have 
				met people and I know members of the Tamil community in the UK 
				who are here as refugees because of the LTTE. There are two 
				sides to the story.
  Stephen Pound: Does my hon. 
				Friend share the frustration of many of my constituents that 
				there seems to be a belief that there is an equivalence between 
				the Government of Sri Lanka and the LTTE? People talk about two 
				sides of the argument. One is the state. The other is a small 
				group of people in the north and east of the island. There is no 
				equivalence. The two are not analogous.  
			Mr. Gerrard: 
			 
				That is an important point, which I had intended to deal 
				with. Let me develop it now, as it has been raised. There is 
				talk of being even-handed and looking at both sides of the 
				question, but we are dealing on one side with a Government who 
				have signed up to international conventions�in relation to human 
				rights, for example. One should expect standards from a 
				Government which one does not necessarily expect from a 
				guerrilla organisation or an organisation described as a 
				terrorist organisation.
  It is no excuse for a Government 
				to point to the activities of the LTTE and say, �Well, if the 
				LTTE behaves like this, we have to take action.� It is no excuse 
				at all for a Government to be involved in breaches of human 
				rights and point to the activities of the LTTE. Governments sign 
				up to international conventions about how they will behave, and 
				over the years there has been significant evidence that the Sri 
				Lankan Government have not always lived up to the conventions to 
				which they are signed up. 
				 Mr. Davey: On that important point, speakers have 
				mentioned the analogy with Northern Ireland. In Northern 
				Ireland, in almost all respects, the British state did not 
				behave against the international conventions. If we press on the 
				Sri Lankan communities the Northern Ireland parallel, surely 
				that should speak volumes to the Sri Lankan Government. If they 
				behaved as the British Government behaved, abiding by the rules, 
				they would be more likely to succeed.  
			Mr. Gerrard: 
			 
				That message is right. If we look back at the history of 
				Northern Ireland over the years, we could find some examples 
				where we did not behave according to conventions, but it did not 
				do us any good when that happened. That is the message that must 
				be put across.
  I have been labelled an LTTE supporter in 
				the past, and been told that I was supporting terrorists. I am 
				well aware of things that the organisation has done that I do 
				not approve of. I am convinced, as I am sure are other hon. 
				Members, that money is being raised in this country which goes 
				to the LTTE. Whether or not the story about the petrol stations 
				is true, I am sure that I am not the only person who has heard 
				the stories of taxing, whereby people are more or less required 
				to contribute money. That happens, and let us not be under any 
				illusion or pretend that it does not. 
				 The bottom line, however, is that there will be no settlement 
				and solution unless the LTTE is involved in developing them and 
				in the negotiations. The Tamil politicians in Sri Lanka, and the 
				Members of Parliament who are members of the Tamil National 
				Alliance, which I know is sometimes described as an LTTE proxy, 
				but comprises elected Members of Parliament, will say exactly 
				that�that the LTTE is the body that represents the view of the 
				majority of Tamils.
  There has been long-standing evidence 
				of the disregard for human rights in Sri Lanka to which my hon. 
				Friend the Member for Ealing, North (Stephen Pound) drew 
				attention, and the failure to live up to basic human rights 
				standards. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, 
				whom my hon. Friend the Member for Tooting (Mr. Khan) quoted, 
				has made the same point. 
				 The commission that has been established to look into 
				extra-judicial killings and disappearances is welcome, but 
				concerns have been expressed that there are shortcomings in the 
				national legal system that could hamper the commission�s 
				effectiveness. Previous commissions have made recommendations, 
				but they have not been put into effect. The commission should be 
				looking not only at individual responsibilities for acts that 
				may be regarded as crimes, but at the broader patterns and the 
				context in which such acts occur. It is no good merely looking 
				at the individual case if nothing then happens to change the 
				overall context.
  The overall context at the moment is 
				extremely worrying. There is no question but that there has been 
				very serious deterioration in the situation over the past year 
				or so. Relief organisations are expressing concern, and the Red 
				Cross has recently told us that there are up to 120,000 
				displaced civilians in the Batticaloa district. Just in the past 
				week or two, more than 40,000 people have fled their homes in 
				that district. 
				 We have heard the claims about restrictions on humanitarian 
				provision, as the A9 road has been closed, which is preventing 
				essential medicines and humanitarian aid from getting through. 
				Human Rights Watch and others have expressed concern that the 
				Sri Lankan authorities are using threats and intimidation to 
				compel civilians who fled recent fighting to return home when it 
				is far from safe for them to do so. Those are not the actions 
				that one would expect from a Government; one would not expect 
				anybody to be forced to return home when they feel it is unsafe 
				to do so.
  As to what can be done, I understand perfectly 
				well that we as a Government are not in a position to dictate 
				solutions to the Governments of any other countries. The 
				solution will be achieved in the end through negotiation and 
				through the people of that country, the LTTE and its Government. 
				I was interested to hear what my right hon. Friend the Member 
				for Torfaen (Mr. Murphy) and the Minister had to say about the 
				initiatives that are being taken, in which we can export 
				experience. It is also perfectly legitimate for us to express 
				our opinions on the initiatives that are being suggested. 
				 I have read the recent reports about the devolution proposals 
				unveiled by the Sri Lanka Freedom party. It seemed to me that 
				the proposals were highly unlikely to lead to a solution. In 
				fact, they will probably be regarded as a step backward, as they 
				implied devolution of power at a very local level, rather than 
				any significant devolution of power that would give any real 
				autonomy to a region or province. 
				 The proposals seem a step backward in respect of some of the 
				suggestions made a few years ago, and it would not be helpful to 
				the peace process if they were pursued. It is not for me to say 
				what the detail of any solution should be, but it will not last 
				if it does not give a significant degree of autonomy to the 
				north and east provinces�the parts of the country with very 
				significant Tamil populations.
  We must carry on with the 
				initiatives that the Minister talked about in his opening 
				remarks. We must offer our experience and support, but send a 
				clear and consistent message to both sides�the Government and 
				the LTTE�that there is not a military solution to this problem. 
				I am worried about the attitude of the Sri Lankan military, who 
				seem to think that they are on the way to crushing the LTTE and 
				that just another push will do it. If that is their mindset, I 
				am afraid that things will get far worse than they are now. That 
				is the important message that we have to send. 
   
			 
			
			 
			
			Mr. Edward Davey (Kingston and Surbiton) (LD): 
			 
				I agree with almost every word that the hon. Member for 
				Walthamstow (Mr. Gerrard) said. It is absolutely crucial that we 
				send a message from this House that we are jointly resolved on 
				the need to put pressure on the Sri Lankan Government, 
				particularly as regards their growing view that there could be a 
				military solution to this problem. I hope that Members on both 
				sides of the House reject that idea.
  Sri Lanka has often 
				appeared to me to be the forgotten tragedy in the world. We hear 
				a great deal about theatres of war such as Darfur and 
				Zimbabwe�of course, they are appalling�but Sri Lanka has been 
				going on, like a running sore, for many years. It has not 
				received the attention that it deserves from this House�that is 
				why I welcome this debate, which has been partly stimulated by 
				the right hon. Member for Leicester, East (Keith Vaz), and 
				congratulate the Government on holding it. This subject has also 
				been forgotten by the British media, and I hope that the BBC and 
				Fleet street will give it the coverage that it deserves.
  
				Like other Members, I come to this debate as a constituency MP 
				having listened to my Tamil constituents� concerns over many 
				years. In engaging with them, we have the wonderful experience 
				of learning about the Tamil culture and seeing how Tamils 
				contribute so positively to British society. One of the 
				highlights of my year is going to Kingston�s Institute of Tamil 
				Culture and seeing the children play their instruments, dance, 
				sing and tell jokes in Tamil�I get them translated for me. 
				Sometimes it goes on for rather a long time, but it is always 
				very enjoyable. 
				 When we engage with them properly and listens to their 
				concerns, we hear stories of tragedies. When I have spoken to 
				them at political meetings, I have always taken the view that we 
				should approach this on a human rights basis, with equality 
				across the communities. Like the hon. Member for Walthamstow, I 
				have been accused of being an LTTE sympathiser, but I reject 
				that utterly. I have always tried to take a balanced approach. 
				The idea that in this House and in this country we can suggest a 
				solution that we can somehow impose on people is clearly 
				nonsense.
  When we talk to Tamil constituents and say that 
				we want to take a balanced, human rights approach, we cannot 
				help but feel their anger, frustration and pain, because they 
				have families who have been killed, they have seen killings 
				themselves, and they look at communities of theirs that have 
				been devastated by the violence. It is impossible, as a 
				constituency MP, not to listen to those stories, and not to 
				share their concern and anger. 
				 Susan Kramer: 
				 Does my hon. Friend agree that one of the deep frustrations 
				in the Tamil community, rightly or wrongly�it may be an unfair 
				statement�is the feeling that because of the war on terror the 
				British Government and other European Governments do not have 
				the same energy and will to resolve their problem because, 
				first, they have higher priorities, and secondly, they are very 
				hesitant about being associated with conversations with anyone 
				who carries the label �terrorist� anywhere near their name?  
			Mr. Davey: 
			 
				My hon. Friend makes the point clearly. To be fair to the 
				Government, and although I heard only the second half of the 
				Minister�s speech, for which I apologise again, I was pleased to 
				hear about the initiatives that he and his colleagues are 
				taking. I am sure that they have the support of hon. Members of 
				all parties. However, like my hon. Friend the Member for 
				Richmond Park (Susan Kramer), I urge him to go further and not 
				be put off by the label �terrorists�, which can pollute a proper 
				debate about the policy towards a country.
  Most of the 
				Tamils to whom I speak do not support the LTTE. As the hon. 
				Member for Walthamstow said, many of them are fleeing violence 
				that the LTTE perpetrated against them, their families and 
				communities. The Tamil community is, of course, varied. Let us 
				be clear: some people support the LTTE, often reluctantly, 
				because they feel that it is the only organisation that can 
				voice their concerns and represent the Tamil community. Some 
				believe that they have no alternative. Let us be honest and say 
				that that is partly because the LTTE has stamped out some of the 
				alternative Tamil political organisations, again with acts of 
				terror. The LTTE has therefore almost created a monopoly. 
				Nevertheless, for many people, it represents a true voice of the 
				Tamil community�s demands. Those voices should be listened to 
				and their anger heard.
  One must apply proper standards to 
				the Sri Lankan Government. I have read UN report after UN 
				report, Amnesty International report after Amnesty International 
				report, as well as reports from Human Rights Watch and the 
				International Bar Association, which show that the Sri Lankan 
				Government are not fulfilling the requirements of civil rights 
				and due process or their legal responsibilities. The emergency 
				regulations allow for the most incredible abuses of civil and 
				human rights, primarily against the Tamil population. We must 
				bear that in mind in the debate. 
				 I want to make four quick points. First, let us consider the 
				suffering of the civilian population in the east and north. 
				People have commented on the A9 and its closure by the Sri 
				Lankan Government. That is critical. The lack of food and 
				medical supplies, especially in the Jaffna peninsula, causes 
				great hardship, and I cannot understand why the Sri Lankan 
				Government continue to set their face against international 
				pressure. I am told that that was a sticking point at the Geneva 
				peace talks, and that the Sri Lankan Government walked away from 
				them last autumn because of the demand to reopen the road. To me 
				that was a legitimate demand from the Tamil side, and I hope 
				that it will be realised. I refer hon. Members to early-day 
				motion 955 in my name and that of my hon. Friends, in which we 
				press for the A9 to be reopened for humanitarian reasons. 
				 My second point is directed at the Sri Lankan authorities. 
				Like my hon. Friends the Members for North Southwark and 
				Bermondsey (Simon Hughes) and for Richmond Park, I have been 
				challenged when I have raised such issues; I have also seen 
				colleagues challenged. Councillor Yogan Yoganathan on Kingston 
				council, a former mayor of the royal borough, has been labelled 
				an LTTE sympathiser and supporter simply because, like hon. 
				Members, he wanted to speak out about human rights abuses in Sri 
				Lanka. 
				 I believe that the Sri Lankan authorities, possibly through 
				their representatives in this country, are trying to prevent 
				people from speaking out�to prevent freedom of speech. We must 
				convey a message that we will debate such issues in this 
				country, that that is our democratic right, and that the Sri 
				Lankan authorities should accept it and not try to intimidate 
				people who speak out by trying to label them LTTE sympathisers 
				or terrorists. 
				 I hope that the Government will make the point that that is 
				unacceptable in their discussions with Sri Lankan 
				representatives in this country. I intend to do that when I meet 
				the Sri Lankan high commissioner, as I shall shortly.
  My 
				third point relates to the Home Office, to which one or two 
				other hon. Members have referred. Let me tell hon. Members a 
				story from one of my advice surgeries a few months ago. I met a 
				gentleman who was claiming asylum�for the second time, as he had 
				failed the first time. He had been returned, re-arrested, 
				detained and tortured again. I learned from talking to his 
				lawyer that his case was not an isolated one. This country has 
				been sending back as failed asylum seekers a number of people 
				who went through that experience. Some managed to escape again 
				and tried to claim asylum again; others have disappeared; still 
				others have been killed.
  I ask Ministers on the Treasury 
				Bench tonight to take the message back to the Home Office to be 
				particularly careful when considering asylum claims from Sri 
				Lankan citizens. These stories are simply unacceptable and we 
				must ensure that bona fide claims for asylum are considered with 
				real care, particularly given the deteriorating situation in Sri 
				Lanka. 
				 Jeremy Corbyn: Does the hon. Gentleman agree that 
				merely the act of seeking asylum on the part of many people from 
				the Tamil community in Sri Lanka would render them liable to all 
				kinds of dangers if they were forcibly returned? In that sense, 
				would it not be better not to return people forcibly to Sri 
				Lanka?  
			Mr. Davey: 
			 
				The hon. Gentleman makes a valid point. This is a cleft stick 
				for the Government. False claims are false claims, but I have 
				seen too many cases where bona fide claims for asylum have been 
				rejected. Despite making the strongest possible representations, 
				people have been returned, sometimes never to be heard of again.
  
				My final point relates to the ban. The right hon. Member for 
				Leicester, East (Keith Vaz) rightly suggested that it was 
				counter-productive. It may well be. I hope that the Minister can 
				develop the response that his colleague gave me when I asked 
				about the possibility of a process for reviewing the ban. Can 
				the Government be a little clearer about how they could involve 
				Members in looking at the issue again? They should do so, for 
				the following reason.
  When the statutory instrument was 
				originally passed proscribing the LTTE, it was one of more than 
				20 organisations named in it. There was no single debate about 
				the LTTE, just one debate on the whole statutory instrument. We 
				did not have 20-odd separate votes after 20-odd separate 
				debates�just one. Of course those regulations included a number 
				of organisations that really needed to be proscribed, as the 
				whole House agreed, but I believe that there is a debate�a 
				legitimate debate�about whether the LTTE should be proscribed, 
				and it ought to be heard. The process that proscribed the LTTE 
				in the first place was inadequate. That, in itself, is an 
				argument in favour of a review at the very least.
  
				Simon Hughes: Just so that my hon. Friend is clear, I am 
				sure he remembers that that was a point that we made at the 
				time, and beforehand; it is not a point that we have thought up 
				later. We said then that if a step as serious as banning 
				organisations is to be taken, there must be a process in this 
				place to look into the evidence for each case separately, one by 
				one. We have argued that consistently, and I hope that the 
				Government have at last come to understand it.  
			Mr. Davey: 
			 
				I totally agree with my hon. Friend.
  Sri Lanka has the 
				potential to be one of the powerhouses of Asia, and the world. 
				Just three decades ago, it was held up as a model society. 
				Professor Amartya Sen used to write in glowing terms that here 
				was�dare I say it?�a socialist economy and society that had 
				managed to reduce infant mortality, improve literacy and achieve 
				many other key indicators of human progress. Sri Lanka had done 
				a tremendous job. However, the strife that we have seen over the 
				last 30 years has, unfortunately, seen the society go backwards 
				and social progress reversed.
  I am sure that those 
				achievements can be regained�but what it will take to do that is 
				peace. It will take Governments such as ours and the European 
				Union putting even more pressure than they have hitherto on both 
				parts of the island to come together. The biggest aid package 
				that we could ever give to the island would be to help it to 
				promote peace. It would no longer need our support or aid�it is 
				more than capable of becoming prosperous by itself, without a 
				pound of aid�if we helped it to restore peace. I am delighted to 
				see that a Minister from the Department for International 
				Development is to respond to the debate, and I hope that his 
				Department, working with the Foreign Office, can give Sri Lanka 
				that aid.
  When the tsunami occurred, I hoped that it 
				would help to stimulate peace and reconciliation, because the 
				response to it was building on the ceasefire agreement that had 
				been working, particularly under Prime Minister Wickramasinghe. 
				Unfortunately, that did not happen. Some of the negative voices 
				from the old Kumaratunga regime, and subsequently from the 
				Rajapakse regime, had their way, and we have seen a 
				deterioration in the situation ever since.
  When we were 
				considering how individual MPs and communities in this country 
				could help, one project that I was delighted to support was the 
				fish and ships scheme. Many fishermen had lost their boats, and 
				their livelihoods, as a result of the tsunami, but some British 
				people living in Sri Lanka got together with the fishermen and 
				the communities and said, �If we supply you with ships and get 
				you contracts with British supermarkets for your fish, that will 
				help to revive your economy.� And that has happened.
  If 
				we help people in such ways, Sri Lanka can be a wonderful place 
				again. But there is a precondition: peace. Let us not wait 
				another five or 10 years before the House again debates this 
				issue and puts pressure on the Government to do more. Let us 
				keep coming back to the subject again and again, because the 
				cause of peace in Sri Lanka deserves our attention, and deserves 
				to be one of the key issues to which we pay attention.  
			 
			
			 
			
			Mike Gapes (Ilford, South) (Lab/Co-op): 
			
			 
				First, I should like to apologise for not being here for the 
				opening speeches. This debate started earlier than expected, and 
				I was chairing a Select Committee evidence session on Iran.
  
				I am speaking in two capacities: as the MP representing a 
				constituency with a large Sri Lankan Tamil community and as the 
				Chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee. I am in an unfortunate 
				position, in that the Committee is publishing a report on south 
				Asia on Friday, but it is embargoed so I cannot quote from it� [ 
				Interruption. ] Yes, I am holding it in my hand. I can at least 
				refer to the evidence. The report examines the whole regional 
				context, but we have of course touched on the serious situation 
				in Sri Lanka.
  Before I refer to the report, however, I 
				should like to place on record the fact that I agree with most 
				of the contributions that I have heard today, and certainly with 
				what the hon. Member for Kingston and Surbiton (Mr. Davey) said 
				about the cultural contribution of the Tamil community. We have 
				a chariot festival in Ilford every year, and the community 
				contains temples and prosperous businesses. The area of my 
				constituency around Ley street has become a centre of the Tamil 
				community, enriching and enlivening the cultural life of the 
				borough of Redbridge. 
				 Given the contribution that most Tamil people in the UK 
				make, it is tragic that many of them are suffering grievously 
				because of what is happening to their relatives and friends in 
				Sri Lanka. A letter was faxed to me two days ago in which one of 
				my constituents says:
  �I am deeply grieved at the 
				deplorable state of affairs at the moment, especially the 
				disappearance of innocent civilians. A pathetic state of 
				affairs, indeed, for an agreement which once looked so 
				promising, but five years since it came into effect, the 
				Ceasefire Agreement is almost defunct.�
  I could go on. 
				Other Members have reported many similar things. The sad thing 
				is that the hope for the co-operation that might have resulted 
				following the terrible tsunami, and the possibility of building 
				on the ceasefire agreement have clearly gone backwards. In the 
				past few months, we have all no doubt received from our 
				constituents pictures of the consequences of the air raids and 
				the bombing of civilian areas, and of people who have died in 
				many parts of Sri Lanka. At the same time, terrorist actions and 
				criminal activities are going on, and the population in many 
				areas is suffering grievously as a result. 
				 Jeremy Corbyn: I am not asking my hon. Friend to 
				reveal anything in the report due out on Friday, but does he 
				agree that it is important to give all the support that we can 
				to the International Committee of the Red Cross in trying to 
				trace some of the missing people? Such anguish is caused to 
				families here whose loved ones have disappeared and are possibly 
				dead but who receive no news because of either the collapse of 
				communications in Sri Lanka or the refusal to divulge 
				information. International agencies are therefore required to 
				help out.  
			Mike Gapes: 
			 
				I agree. We also need to support all the international 
				institutions, the UN processes that have been mentioned, the 
				attempts made by individual Governments, and the attempt of my 
				right hon. Friend the Member for Torfaen (Mr. Murphy), whom I 
				had the great pleasure of serving as Parliamentary Private 
				Secretary during the Northern Ireland peace negotiations when 
				the Labour Government were first elected. Nobody could be better 
				qualified to try to assist the process in Sri Lanka, but I wish 
				him luck, because the complexities of the politics in Sri Lanka 
				are even worse than those in Northern Ireland. Therefore, no 
				easy solution can be reached.
  The violence has had an 
				enormous economic impact, as has been mentioned. Sri Lanka�s 
				growth and economic development has been held back, and its once 
				successful tourist industry has been harmed�it would be harmed 
				even more if the BBC were to give some coverage to the appalling 
				situation in Sri Lanka. Our media do not give the conflict in 
				Sri Lanka the coverage that some other conflicts receive. Some 
				of my constituents who demonstrated outside the House of Commons 
				a few months ago were enraged that the hundreds of people 
				complaining about the human rights situation in Sri Lanka 
				received no coverage whatever. It is interesting to ask why. The 
				reason might be the malign role of the LTTE and the image that 
				it gives the community. I am an advocate not of the LTTE, but of 
				my constituents and those who have suffered from the terrible 
				things going on in their country.
  Reference has been made 
				to the number of people in refugee camps, the internally 
				displaced people and the refugees who have gone all over the 
				world in the Tamil diaspora. Human rights abuses have been 
				committed on both sides. Many people in Sri Lanka today have 
				suffered as a result of the recruitment of children into 
				terrorist organisations. From evidence given by Human Rights 
				Watch to our Committee and information from other sources, it 
				has become clear that the Karuna faction, which was previously 
				with the LTTE and has gone across to fight on behalf of the Sri 
				Lankan Government, has been recruiting children for its forces 
				and carrying out terrible crimes. The LTTE has also recruited 
				children, and the tactic has been used in the conflict for many 
				years. That is completely against all the international norms 
				and conventions, and we need to denounce that loudly and press 
				for the practice to end.
  As has been mentioned, the 
				Norwegians have tried hard to get a political solution over the 
				years. But the situation today requires renewed international 
				efforts. Along with the efforts of our Ministers and my right 
				hon. Friend the Member for Torfaen, I hope that the Government 
				of India will use whatever influence they have. We must bear in 
				mind the sensitivities, especially given that a Prime Minister 
				of India was assassinated as a result of involvement in the Sri 
				Lankan conflict. Politicians in India might therefore be a bit 
				wary of getting too involved. Nevertheless, if India aspires to 
				be a regional power and player, and certainly if it aspires to a 
				permanent seat on the UN Security Council, it has a role to play 
				in thinking more about how it might assist in achieving a 
				solution to the conflict on the island to its south.
  
				Simon Hughes: I am pleased that the hon. Gentleman is 
				speaking, given that he chairs the Foreign Affairs Committee. I 
				think I am right in saying that Sri Lanka does not feature in 
				the report that his Committee has just produced, which deals 
				with human rights matters around the world and covers what 
				happened last year. Will he take the issues we have raised back 
				to the Committee, and ensure that Sri Lanka is raised in next 
				year�s report?  
			Mike Gapes: 
			 
				Our human rights report did not refer to every country in the 
				world. We tried to highlight a few instances in which we thought 
				the Government�s report was inadequate or required further 
				comment. As we were conducting an inquiry on south Asia and 
				would be publishing our report at about the same time, we felt 
				that duplication was unnecessary. However, when our report is 
				published on Friday it will contain comments about human rights 
				in Sri Lanka.
  I am sure my Committee colleagues will 
				consider what we do in future human rights reports, but I cannot 
				commit my Committee. As the hon. Gentleman knows, it is a 
				democratic Committee whose 14 members make collective decisions. 
				I hope we will examine the situation in Sri Lanka in the round 
				in the coming year.
  I believe that this conflict deserves 
				much greater attention. I believe that there is a role for our 
				Government and for Parliament in trying to facilitate dialogue 
				and a political solution, but I also believe that tactics such 
				as blowing up buses, assassinating political leaders and bombing 
				villages cannot be excused, justified or apologised for, whoever 
				employs them. I therefore believe that members of the various 
				communities�the diaspora, and those in Sri Lanka�who are 
				concerned about these issues must try to find the best way of 
				returning to a political solution.
  As other Members have 
				said, we must get back to politics. Only politics, dialogue and 
				negotiation will provide a solution. The slow, difficult 
				processes in which my right hon. Friend the Member for 
				Torfaen�and many other Members in all parts of the House�played 
				a part for the many years that it took to secure agreement in 
				Northern Ireland will be needed again in Sri Lanka. We must all 
				maintain international support for that approach, just as we 
				received support from the United States, the European Union and 
				the international community. 
   
			 
			
			 
			
			Mr. Andrew Love (Edmonton) (Lab/Co-op): 
			
			 
				I congratulate the Government on making time for the debate. 
				The fact is that Parliament has been rather remiss when it comes 
				to Sri Lanka, especially in view of the number of people who 
				have died and the fact that the conflict has been ongoing since 
				1983.
  I pay tribute�as we all seem to be doing�to my hon. 
				Friend the Member for Brent, North (Barry Gardiner) and to the 
				Under-Secretary of State for International Development, who will 
				reply to the debate. Both played a prominent role in Sri Lankan 
				affairs before they became Ministers, and�as has already been 
				mentioned�both their constituencies contain significant Tamil 
				communities. I want to make a number of points in the limited 
				time available to me. 
				 The first concerns the drift back to war that has been going 
				on for some time. Almost immediately after the ceasefire 
				agreement in 2002, despite six rounds of talks that seemed to be 
				very positive�the LTTE discussed prisoner exchanges and was 
				going to drop the idea of an independent state�by 2003 the LTTE 
				had pulled out, suggesting that it had been sidelined. That 
				resulted in a serious loss of momentum. It was nearly four years 
				before the next major effort was made to bring the two 
				communities together, and although they met in February 2006 and 
				agreed to meet again in April, that subsequent meeting never 
				took place. I pay tribute to Norway for its unsuccessful attempt 
				to bring the two communities together in Oslo in June that year.
  
				There are many reasons for the failure of those efforts, but I 
				shall cite three that I consider particularly important. In 
				October 2003, there was an interim self-governing agreement. 
				Unfortunately, that split the Sinhalese community, and in 
				subsequent parliamentary elections the United National party, 
				which was more sympathetic than some others to finding 
				agreement, was defeated. A consequence of that defeat was that 
				the LTTE and the Tamil community began to wonder about the 
				limitations of the peace process in delivering genuine change 
				for them.
  Secondly, 35,000 people were killed as a result 
				of the tsunami and Members know from debates in this House that 
				there was no direct aid to Tamil areas; it had to be filtered 
				through the Government. There was an agreement between the 
				Government and the LTTE: the post-tsunami operational management 
				system or PTOMS. However, that was challenged in the supreme 
				court, and consequently the aid was slow in getting through and 
				the Tamil community began to wonder whether its suffering caused 
				by the tsunami was being recognised.
  The third reason was 
				the assassination of the Foreign Minister, Mr. Kadirgamar. 
				Although it is widely assumed that that was carried out by the 
				LTTE, no one has claimed responsibility. That has further 
				deepened the hostility between the communities. 
				 The drift into war became a slide after April 2006. The new 
				Government of the Sri Lanka Freedom party came under pressure 
				from the more nationalist smaller parties to take a tougher 
				response to the negotiating process. The LTTE abandoned any 
				prospect that peace would be delivered, and returned to the low 
				intensity insurgency of some years before. There was also the 
				defection of the Karuna faction, which felt that it was not 
				being listened to within the LTTE, and the belief of many in the 
				military and the Sri Lankan Government that they could exploit 
				that split. 
				 The consequence of all of that is that some believe that 
				there can be a military solution. We should make it clear�every 
				Member who has spoken has done so�that there is no military 
				solution. That is not only because the LTTE remains much 
				stronger than many people think, especially in the north of the 
				island, but because, as we have seen in recent weeks and months, 
				it still has the ability to disrupt Sri Lanka and to fight back 
				when necessary. Because we should not underestimate the LTTE, it 
				is crucial that the international community starts to bring the 
				two communities together.
  We have talked a lot about 
				Norway and some Members have been critical, but Norway cannot 
				succeed alone. It needs the help of the international community. 
				That was clear from what happened to the Sri Lanka monitoring 
				mission. The LTTE said that it had to get out of its areas, and 
				it had to retreat back to Colombo and remove monitors who were 
				from European Union countries. The international community has a 
				role to play, and it must do more. 
				 Mr. David Burrowes (Enfield, Southgate) (Con): Will 
				the hon. Gentleman give way?  
			Mr. Love: 
			 
				I apologise, but I shall not take interventions as I only 
				have two minutes. In recent months countries and organisations 
				such as Canada, the European Union and the United States have 
				taken tougher action in respect of the LTTE; Canada, for 
				example, has joined others in proscribing it.  I do not want 
				to get into the arguments for and against taking such action, 
				but we should clearly state that we cannot defeat it militarily 
				and neither can we do so by banishing it from the political 
				system. It has to be possible to bring it in. There has to be a 
				political solution to the problem and that must include the 
				Tamil community�a solution cannot be achieved without it. That 
				requires critical and sustained international engagement. 
				 My major plea is that the British Government must call on the 
				international community to do more. Some time ago, the 
				international donors talked about putting pressure on in terms 
				of international donations. Many countries give debt relief to 
				Sri Lanka. Are we asking whether that is getting through to all 
				the people in Sri Lanka to ease all of its problems? We need 
				answers to such questions.
  I wanted to go into greater 
				detail than time allows on the human rights situation, which is 
				extremely bleak. There is an intensification of the dirty war 
				that mainly impacts on civilians in the north and east of the 
				country. Child recruitment continues on both sides, and there 
				have been more than 700 abductions and disappearances in recent 
				months. Emergency regulations have effectively been turned into 
				prevention of terrorism legislation that contains sweeping 
				powers and is not accountable to the political process. Of 
				course, the LTTE has gone further in rejecting the possibility 
				that the peace process can deliver for it.
  So the reality 
				is that the situation has not been bleaker than this for many 
				years. The reality is also that only the international community 
				can make a real difference in bringing the two sides together. I 
				make the plea that I am sure everyone else is making. Although 
				the British Government may not play the main role, in many ways 
				they have a unique role because of our membership of the 
				Security Council, our historical role in Sri Lanka and our 
				membership of the EU. All those factors can be brought to bear 
				to ensure that we do the most important thing: bring the two 
				sides together, reintroduce the ceasefire agreement and get the 
				political process under way. 
   
			 
			
			 
			
			The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for International 
			Development (Mr. Gareth Thomas): 
				
			 
				This has been a serious and considered debate that has 
				reflected the Government�s profound concern at the situation 
				facing the people of Sri Lanka. My hon. Friend the Minister for 
				the Middle East began the debate by setting out a range of steps 
				that we have taken. He deliberately chose to initiate this 
				debate precisely to allow Members to raise the issues that we 
				know many constituents are concerned about. He confirmed not 
				only that he has visited Sri Lanka, but that he is due to do so 
				again.
  My hon. Friend was followed by the hon. Member for 
				Cotswold (Mr. Clifton-Brown), who spoke for the Opposition. In a 
				wide-ranging speech, he made a series of points and asked a 
				number of questions, not the least of which concerned the role 
				of India and the potential of British discussions with the 
				Indian Government regarding the situation in Sri Lanka. I can 
				confirm that such discussions are ongoing, and that my hon. 
				Friend is due to visit India shortly to continue them in person. 
				I will come to the other questions that the hon. Gentleman asked 
				in due course.
  We were then treated to the contribution 
				of my right hon. Friend the Member for Torfaen (Mr. Murphy), who 
				brought his considerable experience of Northern Ireland matters 
				to this debate. I welcome the fact that he has visited Sri 
				Lanka, and that his interest continues and he is willing to 
				travel again to that country to share the benefit of and reflect 
				on his experience. His forthcoming visit, timed as it will be to 
				coincide with the visit of my hon. Friend the Minister for the 
				Middle East, who will bring the Government�s perspective to the 
				situation in Sri Lanka, will be particularly important. My right 
				hon. Friend made a particularly important point about the 
				Northern Ireland process. The lessons learned from Northern 
				Ireland have a particular read-across to the situation in Sri 
				Lanka. He referred to the importance of parity of esteem, as he 
				put it: the need to develop mutual respect across the divides 
				that haunt Sri Lanka.
  My right hon. Friend was followed 
				by the hon. Member for North Southwark and Bermondsey (Simon 
				Hughes), who touched on the concerns of many of his constituents 
				and made a series of wide-ranging points that I will come to in 
				due course. He was followed by my hon. Friend the Member for 
				Tooting (Mr. Khan), who, among the various points that he made, 
				was the first Member to highlight the wide-ranging contribution 
				of Sri Lankans to the cultural and economic life of our country, 
				and to many of our constituencies, towns and cities.
  The 
				hon. Member for Mid-Worcestershire (Peter Luff) made an 
				especially important point about the need for courage from the 
				leaders of the key groupings in Sri Lanka to offer leadership 
				towards a peace process, given the scale of the conflict and the 
				number of lives that have been lost. It is important that that 
				leadership is offered.
  My right hon. Friend the Member 
				for Leicester, East (Keith Vaz) brought his considerable 
				interest and involvement to the debate, and highlighted the need 
				to ensure that the aid that we offer to Sri Lanka is well 
				targeted. I will say more about that point later.
  The 
				hon. Member for North-West Cambridgeshire (Mr. Vara) gave 
				justified recognition to the considerable contribution of the 
				Norwegian Government. I pay particular tribute to the Norwegian 
				Minister, Erik Solheim, who has been diligent about maintaining 
				his country�s support for the peace process in Sri Lanka in a 
				difficult period. The hon. Gentleman also highlighted the 
				considerable humanitarian needs in the country, and I shall 
				describe how my Department is trying to mitigate the scale of 
				that need.
  My hon. Friend the Member for Lewisham, 
				Deptford (Joan Ruddock) also described the considerable role of 
				the Sri Lankan community in her constituency and rightly dwelt 
				on the scale of human rights abuses in Sri Lanka at present.
  
				The hon. Members for Putney (Justine Greening) and for Kingston 
				and Surbiton (Mr. Davey), and my hon. Friend the Member for 
				Edmonton (Mr. Love) also made heart-felt points about the 
				opportunity that the tsunami appeared to pose for bringing the 
				sides together. I visited Sri Lanka most recently in June 2005, 
				having also travelled to Aceh in Indonesia, where the tsunami 
				was indeed a catalyst for bringing all sides together. However, 
				by June 2005, it was beginning to become clear that the moment 
				had passed when the force and devastation of the tsunami could 
				have offered a route back into the peace process in Sri Lanka. 
				The conflict was already beginning to return to the state it was 
				in before 2002.
  My hon. Friend the Member for Walthamstow 
				(Mr. Gerrard) rightly highlighted the concerns in his 
				constituency and across the UK about the level of human rights 
				abuse in Sri Lanka. In acknowledging the importance of the 
				presidential commission that has been established to look into 
				the issue, he rightly highlighted the need to go further and to 
				ensure that the recommendations of the commission are 
				implemented and deliver tangible improvements in the human 
				rights situation in that country.
  My hon. Friend the 
				Member for Ilford, South (Mike Gapes) brought to our debate his 
				considerable experience as Chairman of the Foreign Affairs 
				Committee. We look forward with interest to the publication of 
				his Committee�s report on Friday. He made the point that more 
				media attention could justifiably be paid to the conflict in Sri 
				Lanka. Perhaps the publication of the Committee�s report will 
				provide an opportunity for that greater media engagement.
  
				In addition, some extremely astute and important interventions 
				were made by my hon. Friends the Members for Ealing, North 
				(Stephen Pound), for Islington, North (Jeremy Corbyn), for 
				Sunderland, South (Mr. Mullin) and for Hayes and Harlington 
				(John McDonnell), and by the hon. Members for Richmond Park 
				(Susan Kramer), for Croydon, Central (Mr. Pelling) and for 
				Enfield, Southgate (Mr. Burrowes). I know that concern about 
				what is happening in Sri Lanka goes beyond those hon. Members 
				who have been able to attend today�s debate. I have received 
				representations from my hon. Friends the Members for Watford 
				(Claire Ward), for Harrow, East (Mr. McNulty), for Brent, North 
				(Barry Gardiner), for Brent, South (Ms Butler), and for Croydon, 
				North (Malcolm Wicks). I also know that this debate will be 
				noted widely across the UK by people in the Sri Lankan Tamil, 
				Sinhalese and Muslim communities. I know from my own 
				constituency of the profound concern about the situation in Sri 
				Lanka. 
				 
				I first had the privilege of visiting the country in October 
				2002, at a time of great hope in the peace process, when people 
				were very optimistic about what was happening. I travelled to 
				Jaffna, which must be one of the most beautifully sited cities 
				in the world, in the company of a Tamil friend from my 
				constituency, and I saw his tears at the scale of the 
				devastation in the city where he grew up and was educated. Since 
				then, and like many other hon. Members, I have heard about the 
				frustration that many people from our Tamil, Muslim and 
				Sinhalese communities feel about the situation in Sri Lanka. 
				That frustration has to do with the prospects for peace, the 
				worsening humanitarian situation and the impact that the 
				conflict is having on development, human rights and on the 
				recovery from the tsunami. 
				 
				As my hon. Friend the Minister set out, the desire for peace and 
				progress has to come from inside Sri Lanka itself. Our Prime 
				Minister has made clear to President Rajapakse our willingness 
				to help, and I hope that the House will agree that my hon. 
				Friend�s visits to the country, the discussions held by my right 
				hon. Friend the Foreign Secretary and other Ministers with 
				visiting Ministers from Sri Lanka, and the engagement of my 
				right hon. Friend the Member for Torfaen show the extent of our 
				commitment to help the people of Sri Lanka move forward. 
				However, I repeat that the peace process must begin in Sri Lanka 
				itself. 
				 
				All Governments, and especially
				
				democratically elected Governments, have the responsibility 
				for defending their countries
				
				against terrorism. The Sri Lankan Government are no 
				exception, although they also face the
				
				considerable challenge of delivering a peace settlement that 
				will meet the aspirations of all Sri Lanka�s different groups. 
				 
				The last time that the House had the opportunity to reflect on 
				the situation in Sri Lanka as we have done today was in the 
				aftermath of the tsunami. At the time, there was considerable 
				concern about the scale of the displacement and loss of life 
				that had taken place. In today�s debate, we have heard about the 
				continued concern in the period since the tsunami, so I will set 
				out in some detail what my Department and the Government more 
				generally have been able to do in response. 
				 
				Simon Hughes: Have the Sri Lankan Government given any 
				indication that they understand what the Labour Government, to 
				their credit, have understood in respect of Britain�that people 
				can be kept happy only if they are given
				
				power and self-government? Has there been any recognition of 
				that in communications from the Sri Lankan Government since 
				Labour has been in office?  
			Mr. Thomas: 
			 
				If the hon. Gentleman will bear with me, in a little while I 
				shall come on to deal with matters such as the fact that the 
				President has set up all-party talks about a possible settlement 
				offer. 
				 
				I was talking about the effects of the tsunami. By the beginning 
				of 2006, almost all the children in the areas affected were 
				attending school. Not surprisingly, the situation has 
				deteriorated since then, and school attendance in the north and 
				east is now severely affected by the security situation. 
				 
				Almost all families that were still in our camps now have access 
				to much sturdier transitional shelter. More than 70 per cent. of 
				families are back in their own homes, and more than 75 per cent. 
				of people have regained their livelihoods. Moreover, progress is 
				being made with the building of improved education and health 
				facilities. We had anticipated that this year major 
				infrastructure programmes would forge ahead and that the pace of 
				progress in building permanent housing would pick up. However, 
				Members will not be surprised to learn that the resurgence of 
				the conflict has had serious consequences for the reconstruction 
				effort and for development more generally, particularly in the 
				north and east of the country. 
				 
				We committed aid of about �7 million immediately after the 
				tsunami struck. About �500,000 is outstanding. We set that money 
				aside to try to help to develop the capacity of the north-east 
				provincial council to lead the recovery process, but the money 
				is unspent because of the impact of renewed conflict. Other 
				money we gave is being well spent, as I saw on my visit to the 
				Ampara district in June 2005. I visited a Tamil rehabilitation 
				organisation camp where money we gave the Adventist development 
				and relief agency was helping to provide water tanks and 
				carriers for some of the 5,000 displaced families in the 
				district. 
				 
				We contributed about �250,000 to World Vision UK to help fund 
				the distribution of food and basic shelter materials to more 
				than 120,000 people in Sri Lanka. We gave aid to help the Save 
				the Children Fund in the distribution of food, shelter, 
				household items and water purification material to about 100,000 
				families across Sri Lanka, including in the north and east. We 
				also helped to fund the UN operation in Sri Lanka. The UN led 
				the international response to assist the Government of Sri Lanka 
				and we helped to fund its capacity to do so. 
				 
				Whatever the form of the final settlement to the ethnic conflict 
				that is scarring Sri Lanka, it must emerge through inclusive 
				negotiations between representatives of the different 
				communities, as Members have said. That will mean making 
				difficult compromises, as the hon. Member for Mid-Worcestershire 
				pointed out. Some people in Sri Lanka may prefer not to make 
				those compromises, believing that a military solution is a 
				better option. Bluntly, as has been said in all the 
				contributions, a military solution is not the better option. 
				Twenty-four years of fighting in Sri Lanka have shown that 
				neither side is capable of a total military victory. Even if a 
				military solution were possible, a settlement imposed following 
				a military victory would be a source of
				
				considerable resentment and future conflict; it would not 
				have the makings of a genuinely sustainable peace. 
				 
				The hon. Member for North Southwark and Bermondsey asked about 
				our conversations with the Sri Lankan Government. The all-party 
				committee initiated by President Rajapakse provides an 
				opportunity to reach a consensus, especially among southern 
				politicians, on what devolution might look like in the Sri 
				Lankan context. We welcome that initiative and hope that the 
				final proposal for devolution will be ambitious in its efforts 
				to accommodate the aspirations of all Sri Lankans. 
				 
				Mr. Love: There are constant rumours that if consensus is 
				reached but negotiations do not take place the Sri Lankan 
				Government will go ahead without agreement. What would be our 
				Government�s reaction in that case?  
			Mr. Thomas: 
			 
				I am sure that my hon. Friend will forgive me if at this 
				stage I do not speculate on an unknown outcome. As I have said, 
				a solution in Sri Lanka will have to be reached through 
				negotiation and compromise, and I hope that that message is well 
				understood. 
				 
				Many Members touched on the humanitarian situation, reflecting 
				on the impact of the conflict on the civilian population. Much 
				of the recent fighting has occurred in heavily populated areas 
				of the east. Tens of thousands of people have been displaced 
				over the past year. Recent reporting by UN agencies suggests 
				that malnutrition remains a real concern for many living in 
				internally displaced person camps. Those camps are not the 
				places of refuge that they should be from the killings and 
				political abductions that are scarring Sri Lanka. 
				 
				In the north, the situation in Jaffna is particularly grim. It 
				is a city of 600,000 people and it remains cut off from the rest 
				of the country. We agree with the co-chairs of the peace 
				process�the EU, Norway, Japan and the United States�that there 
				should be 
				 
				�immediate, permanent and unconditional opening of the sea and 
				road routes�� 
				 
				the A9 has been referred to� 
				 
				�for humanitarian convoys of essential supplies.� 
				 
				As the intensity of the fighting has increased, the space for 
				humanitarian agencies to operate in has become much more 
				constricted. Both the Government of Sri Lanka and the LTTE have 
				a responsibility to ensure that humanitarian agencies are able 
				to get full access to civilians in need of support. Crucially, 
				they should respect the neutrality of humanitarian agencies. 
				Seeing humanitarian agencies as legitimate targets for 
				vilification because they support peace may jeopardise the 
				security of their staff. 
				 
				According to figures compiled by Reuters, Sri Lanka is one of 
				the most dangerous places in the world for humanitarian workers 
				to operate. In 2006, 23 were killed, 17 of them in a terrible 
				murder near Trincomalee in August. I am sure that the House will 
				join me in paying tribute to UN agencies, the International 
				Committee of the Red Cross and numerous non-governmental 
				organisations for the selfless work that they do in Sri Lanka. 
				 
				Mr. Davey: I join the tribute that the Minister has paid 
				to United Nations agencies that are working on the island. He 
				talked about the need to open land routes, in particular, in an 
				area that is battered by conflict. Is not one possible solution 
				to ask the United Nations Security Council whether there could 
				be a peacekeeping force just for that route, to keep it open for 
				humanitarian aid? Is that one possible way forward?  
			Mr. Thomas: 
			 
				I will come on to the question of the UN and the discussions 
				that we have been having through it. We have made it clear that 
				access is necessary by road and sea. I take this opportunity 
				again to urge the LTTE and the Government of Sri Lanka to 
				recognise that they have a responsibility to facilitate access 
				for humanitarian and development agencies. That is a 
				responsibility on the Government of Sri Lanka, but it is also 
				one that the LTTE must recognise. 
				 
				I touched on what we as a Government have been able to do to 
				respond to the humanitarian needs. In September last year, we 
				contributed $1 million to the United Nations and the 
				International Committee of the Red Cross for their response to 
				the humanitarian crisis unfolding in Sri Lanka. An assessment 
				mission has recently returned again from Sri Lanka and we will 
				assess the recommendations in its summary report in the next few 
				weeks with a view to considering what else we can do to help 
				mitigate the impact. 
				 
				Much has been said about human rights. As a number of hon. 
				Members have said, in areas under LTTE control, there is no 
				tolerance of dissent or of freedom of expression. The LTTE needs 
				to develop its role as a credible partner for peace. 
				 It cannot continue to persecute Tamils just because they have 
				opposing views. As my hon. Friend the Member for Lewisham, West 
				(Jim Dowd) made clear in one of his interventions early on, 
				there have been credible reports that members of the Government 
				security forces have been involved in extra-judicial killings 
				and there have been repeated allegations that some civilians 
				detained during large anti-terrorist operations have 
				disappeared. I know of concerns from my own constituency case 
				load, as well. 
				 It appears that anti-LTTE paramilitary groups have also been 
				engaged in violence and intimidation. Despite promising to do 
				so, the Government of Sri Lanka have not succeeded in preventing 
				those armed groups from operating in Government-controlled 
				areas. There are allegations of collusion by the security 
				forces. 
				 
				The four leading international players in the peace process�the 
				co-chairs�have made it clear that they believe that both parties 
				have failed to deliver on their responsibilities in that 
				respect, including on the commitments made at the Geneva meeting 
				in 2006. We share that view and the concern that has been raised 
				in the House about the serious restrictions that have been put 
				on freedom of expression, 
				with journalists and newspaper distribution agents being 
				intimidated and, in some cases, killed. 
				 
				Mr. Clifton-Brown: I asked the hon. Gentleman several 
				questions during my speech, notably whether the UK Government 
				are taking any new initiatives to solve the peace process, 
				especially involving the United Nations. Will he say something 
				about that before he concludes?  
			Mr. Thomas: 
			 
				I will indeed. However, first let me highlight the fact that 
				the Foreign Minister and two other
				
				democratically elected Members of Parliament have been killed 
				in the past two years. Many ordinary people have been reported 
				as
				
				disappeared or simply killed. 
				 
				The hon. Member for Cotswold asked me about the UN, as did the 
				hon. Member for Kingston and Surbiton. Last year, Louise Arbour, 
				the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, felt that 
				the unfolding human rights situation was so serious that she 
				called on the international community to continue to monitor it. 
				She said that the events were not just ceasefire violations, but 
				grave breaches of international human rights and humanitarian 
				law. That is why we continue to seek a resolution at the
				
				UN Human Rights Council. We want discussions to take place 
				there so that we can help to build a framework for peace and 
				increase confidence on all sides in Sri Lanka. 
				 
				As I indicated, we welcome and support the establishment of the 
				international independent group of eminent persons, which will 
				monitor domestic investigations into human rights abuses. 
				However, the group, on its own, is not enough. The 
				investigations must be rigorous and fast. They must help to 
				ensure that more of the perpetrators of human rights abuses are 
				brought to justice. 
				 
				I am sure that the House will agree that one of the most 
				abhorrent human rights abuses is the
				
				continued recruitment of children to fight. Both the LTTE 
				and the Karuna faction have given undertakings that they will 
				stop the practice, but evidence, including that from UNICEF, 
				suggests that both organisations continue to force children to 
				fight. 
				 
				The hon. Member for Cotswold asked whether the Sri Lanka 
				monitoring mission could be strengthened. We agree that it has 
				done an excellent job in often difficult circumstances. I hope 
				that the LTTE will once again co-operate with the mission and 
				allow monitors from EU member states to return. 
				 
				My hon. Friend the Member for Edmonton asked about debt relief 
				and the UK�s decision to pay thus far only half the outstanding 
				debt relief tranche for 2006. We believe that that sent a clear 
				message to the Sri Lankan Government about our concerns. 
				 The outstanding payment will be made only when consultations 
				have concluded with the Sri Lankan Government. Those 
				consultations will, in particular, involve discussions about the 
				human rights situation in Sri Lanka. When the high commissioner 
				met the Sri Lankan Foreign Minister last week, they discussed 
				debt relief and our concerns about human rights. The high 
				commissioner urged the Sri Lankan Government to respond to and 
				address our concerns. Further debt relief payments cannot be 
				made until that happens. 
				 
				Many hon. Members asked what else the Government could do in 
				addition to the considerable efforts that we are already making. 
				Our top political and developmental priority in Sri Lanka is 
				supporting peace building. The Department works closely with our 
				colleagues in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office and the 
				Ministry of Defence and with those whom support the Prime 
				Minister. We combine our operations in the country, and we are 
				using funds from the global conflict prevention pool to support 
				a series of programmes that will help to bring the sides 
				together, slowly to try to create the conditions for a 
				sustainable peace. 
				 
				Sri Lanka is a country of huge but unfulfilled potential. We 
				want a peaceful solution to the conflict. That solution must be 
				one with which all the people and communities in Sri Lanka feel 
				comfortable. It must enable the society to become more 
				prosperous and healthier. We will continue to be engaged in the 
				search for peace in Sri Lanka. 
				 
   
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