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New Delhi won't listen to the political jokers in Tamil Nadu
says Sri Lankan Army Chief Fonseka

1.Zee News, 7 December 2008
2. Sri Lanka State Controlled Sunday Observer, 7 December 2008 together with further comments by tamilnation.org 

"...If the LTTE is wiped out, those political jokers like Nedumaran, Vaiko and whoever who sympathizes with the LTTE will most probably lose their income from the LTTE.. If you consider the overall thing, the LTTE's separate state ideology is a threat to India, because this ideology will spread in Tamil Nadu too. It is now proved by Tamil Nadu by staging protests against the Indian government and seeking help to take the side of the LTTE..."

Comment by tamilnation.org Spot the joker?


Vaiko at Maveerar Naal 2008, London


7 December 2008, Zee News

Colombo, Dec 07: The Sri Lankan Army chief has said that the Congress-led Indian government would not listen to "the political jokers" in Tamil Nadu and insist that Colombo go for a ceasefire with the Tamil Tiger rebels.  Army Chief Lt Gen Sarath Fonseka, in an interview with the state-run Sunday Observer, expressed confidence that the Indian government "is not interested in a ceasefire in Sri Lanka" as it has listed the LTTE as a terrorist organization and handed the rebel chief a death sentence for his links with the assassination of former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi.

"The Indian government has already expressed its view on the Sri Lankan issue and Prime Minister Singh has enough problems after the Mumbai terrorist attack. They are against the LTTE and nothing in favour of the LTTE would happen," the Sunday Observer has quoted the army chief as saying.

General Fonseka, whose term of office has been extended by one more year, has said that India "cannot just look the other side when it comes to Tamil sentiments" and was keen to ensure that innocent civilians were not harmed during military operation.

"That is why India is sending food and other relief to make sure that innocent Tamils are not suffering. That is their concern and Sri Lanka gives our fullest co-operation to ensure that innocent Tamils are not harmed.... That is what India expects from us," Fonseka said.

The Sri Lankan Army chief's remarks have come at a time when New Delhi is increasingly under pressure from its coalition partners in Tamil Nadu led by ruling Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK) and its allies in the state assembly for an immediate truce in Sri Lanka.

On Dec 4, Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi held a special meeting in New Delhi with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Congress President Sonia Gandhi to reiterate his call for an immediate truce in Sri Lanka.

Immediately after the meeting in New Delhi he announced that Manmohan Singh would send Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee to Colombo 'soon' to persuade peace talks with the LTTE after declaring a truce. The Prime Minister's office neither confirmed nor denied the statement of Karunanidhi.

Despite bad weather and heavy LTTE resistance, Sri Lankan troops advancing in several directions were said to be within the striking distance of LTTE's one time political power centre - Kilinochchi town, lying 350 km north of here.

Claiming that the advancing troops "will definitely capture" Kilinochchi and Mullaitivu from the LTTE, the army chief has said that the "only option that will be left for the LTTE (thereafter) is just to jump to the sea or to bite cyanide capsules".

Responding to a question on the charges that Sri Lankan security forces do not have concerns about civilians when attacking the LTTE, General Fonseka has said that "these allegations are made only by the corrupt politicians in Tamil Nadu who have been bribed by the LTTE".

"Though they are very much aware that the civilians are not getting killed in any of these military operations they try to utter some words on behalf of the LTTE as their survival depends on the LTTE," Fonseka said.

"If the LTTE is wiped out, those political jokers like Nadumaran, Vaiko and whoever who sympathizes with the LTTE will most probably lose their income from the LTTE," the army chief has been quoted as saying.

Pointing out that the LTTE activities had caused much problems in Tamil Nadu, he warned that the LTTE's ideology for a separate state could endanger the sovereignty of India.

"If you consider the overall thing, the LTTE's separate state ideology is a threat to India, because this ideology will spread in Tamil Nadu too. It is now proved by Tamil Nadu by staging protests against the Indian government and seeking help to take the side of the LTTE," the Sri Lankan Army chief has said.


LTTE's separate State ideology a threat to India -Army Chief
By Shanika Sriyananda in
Sri Lanka State Controlled Sunday Observer, 7 December 2008

The Indian Government would never influence Sri Lanka to restore the ceasefire and it would not listen to the political `jokers' of Tamil Nadu whose survival depends on the LTTE which killed one of the most respected Prime Ministers of India - Rajiv Gandhi, said Army Commander Lt. General Sarath Fonseka.

The Army Chief, whose tenure was extended by another year, said that the LTTE had caused much problems in Tamil Nadu and the LTTE's separate State ideology would cause damage to the sovereignty of India.

In an exclusive interview with the Sunday Observer Lt. General Sarath Fonseka said that the Security Forces had taken all efforts to maintain zero casualties in military offensives, but the corrupt politicians in Tamil Nadu who had been bribed by the LTTE make such false allegations.

"If the LTTE is wiped out, those political jokers like Nadumaran, Viko and whoever who is sympathising with the LTTE will most probably lose their income from the LTTE", he said.

Excerpts of the interview:

Q: While the Security Forces are in the last lap of eliminating the Tigers, the LTTE through Tamil Nadu is influencing the Indian government to insist on a ceasefire in Sri Lanka. How do you see this?

A: I am confident that the Indian government is not interested in a ceasefire in Sri Lanka and they listed the LTTE as a terrorist organisation. They have already accepted Prabhakaran as a criminal and given him the death sentence. They cannot just look the other side when it comes to Tamil sentiments. That is why India is sending food and other relief to make sure that innocent Tamils are not suffering. That is their concern and Sri Lanka gives our fullest co-operation to ensure that innocent Tamils are not harmed. During the military operation to liberate the East, we have proved it very well.

Comment by tamilnation.org Liberation of the East... and the same strategy in the Wanni...

Today, the Security Forces have adopted the same strategy in the Wanni liberation. That is what India expects from us. The Indian government has already expressed its view on the Sri Lankan issue and Prime Minister Singh has enough problems after the Mumbai terrorist attack. They are against the LTTE and nothing in favour of the LTTE would happen.

Q: The Mumbai terror attack has shattered the South Asian Region. How do you see this attack?

A: Terrorism is a problem everywhere as there are extremists. Most of the countries are suffering due to terrorism. Sri Lanka has been affected badly by terrorism mainly because we did not handle it properly in the past.

Comment by tamilnation.org

"Throwing a bomb is bad,
Dropping a bomb is good;
Terror, no need to add,
Depends on who's wearing the hood."
R.Woddis 'Ethics for Everyman'
quoted by Igor Primoratz in State Terrorism & Counter Terrorism

Pakistan and India are facing the problem of terrorism today. They cannot ignore the gravity and the Mumbai attack is a reminder that all the countries need to take steps to combat terrorism. It is better to be united to eradicate terrorism rather than trying to combat it alone. If we are supported by India we also could finish the LTTE faster than this. Likewise, India and Pakistan should help each other and understand their problems, Then these countries can solve the problem of terrorism easily. The terrorists are capitalising these issues between the countries.

Comment by tamilnation.org

"..Well, I believe that terrorism is a tool that has been utilized throughout history to achieve certain objectives. Some have been ideological, others territorial. There are personality-driven terroristic objectives. The bottom line is, you can't lump all terrorists together. And I think we've got to do a much better job of clarifying what are the motivations, the raisons d'�tre of terrorists. I mean, what the Tamil Tigers are fighting for in Sri Lanka, or the Basque separatists in Spain, or the insurgents in al-Anbar province may only be connected by tactics. They may not share all that much in terms of what is the philosophical or ideological underpinning. And I think one of our mistakes has been painting with such a broad brush, which has not been particularly helpful in understanding what it is we were up against when it comes to those who pursue terrorism for whichever ends they're seeking..." Hillary Clinton "You Can't Lump All Terrorists Together", 23 October 2007

Q: Despite the efforts to put down the LTTE aircraft, the LTTE air wing is still in operation. Do you think that the LTTE's air wing could be a threat to India?

A: It can definitely be a problem to Tamil Nadu. I do not think that these small aircraft will be able to do much in India. But the sea tigers can create lot of problems to India. They have killed enough Indian fishermen in the past and do smuggling like arms and drug trafficking and gun running. If you consider the overall thing, the LTTE's separate state ideology is a threat to India. Because this ideology will spread in Tamil Nadu too. It is now proved by Tamil Nadu by staging protests against the Indian government seeking help to take the side of the LTTE. There are people in Tamil Nadu who are sympathising with the separatist ideologies of the LTTE. That means this poses some danger to Tamil Nadu.

Q: What do you expect the LTTE will do once Kilinochchi completely falls to the Security Forces?

A: After capturing Kilinochchi, the Security Forces will definitely capture Mullaithivu. Then the only option that will be left for the LTTE is just to jump to the sea or to bite cyanide capsules. If they want to surrender still they have a chance. If they wait till the troops enter these two places there would not be any cadre to surrender as most of them will die during the offensives. The LTTE will not have any control by that time and the civilians will flee to our areas abandoning the LTTE. Now the LTTE cadres, who have realised their defeat, have started fleeing to liberated areas mingling with the civilians. Over 30 LTTE cadres have crossed to liberated areas with the civilians. Though the LTTE leader is still unaware of his fate, God knows it very well.

Comment by tamilnation.org

 "..But imagine it happens: Killinochchi is flattened, Mr P is dead, LTTE dissolved. Will the Tamil dream of a Tamil Eelam die? Of course not. It will be revived, and new cycles of violence will occur..." Conflict Resolution in Tamil Eelam - Sri Lanka: the Norwegian Initiative- Professor Johan Galtung, February 2007

"Kuttimuni will be sentenced to death today, but tomorrow there will be thousands of Kuttimunis." Statement by Tamil Leader, Selvarajah Yogachandran (Kuttimuni) at his trial in the Colombo High Court, August 1982

Q: One major allegation levelled against the government is that the security forces do not have concerns about civilians when attacking the LTTE. What are the steps taken to minimise civilian casualties in the military offensives?

A: These allegations are made only by the corrupt politicians in Tamil Nadu who have been bribed by the LTTE.

Comment by tamilnation.org Bribed by the LTTE...? ஈழத்தமிழினத்தின் அவலமும் தாய்த்தமிழக எழுச்சியும் -  குமுதம் இணையதள காணொளி

Though they are very much aware that the civilians are not getting killed in any of these military operations they try to utter some words on behalf of the LTTE as their survival depends on the LTTE.

Comment by tamilnation.org  "Civilians are not getting killed.."

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If the LTTE is wiped out those political jokers like Nadumaran, Vaiko and whoever who sympathise with the LTTE will most probably lose their income from the LTTE. If they are genuinely worried about the assassination of their own Prime Minister, will these politicians ever represent the LTTE, which has created enough problems in Tamil Nadu.

Comment by tamilnation.org

"..the Indian Army came here, massacred innocent Tamil civilians, raped our women and plundered our valuables. The acronym IPKF will always stand for Indian People Killing Force where we are concerned. We will one day erect a memorial in the heart of Jaffna town, in the centre of Hospital Road, in memory of all the innocent civilians – ranging in age from the very old past 80 to young children massacred by the IPKF and to the women who were raped." IPKF - Innocent People Killing Force,  Dr. T. Somasekaram   

"...as an Indian I feel ashamed that under the Indo Sri Lanka agreement, our forces are fighting with Tamils whom they went to protect...I believe that the Indian Government had betrayed its own culture and ethics...The guilt, therefore, rests entirely on those who sent them to do this dastardly business of fighting in Sri Lanka against our Tamil brothers and sisters..." India's former Foreign Secretary, A.P.Venkateshwaran,  speaking in London in April 1988

They are well aware that most of the prominent Tamil leaders were killed by the LTTE. I think that if these Tamil Nadu politicians are genuine they should sympathise with the Tamils who are suffering under the grips of the LTTE but definitely not killers like LTTEers.

This is the time for them to realise the truth. And they should also realise their attempts to save the LTTE would not be successful as the LTTE is on the brink of extinction. Most importantly, they should realise that LTTE is an internal problem of Sri Lanka and need to honour the soverinigty of Sri Lanka.

Q: How do you see Prabhakaran's Mahaweeran Day speech, which asked India to help the outfit to become strong to realise its dream - a separate state?

A: I think it is like a dying dog barking. But his voice does not properly vibrates. Prabhakaran thinks that he has threatened but what I can see is he was pleading to the world to come and save him. However, he has admitted that the LTTE has never been attacked this way before in its history. It means that he has started feeling the defeat now. It is not a message just a plea to save his life before he breathes his last.

Q: Since the fall of Pooneryn plans are under way to open the A-32 highway. Do you think there will be threats from the LTTE on this route?

A: No. I do not think so because they are now far away from the A-32. The LTTE has to come over 30 kms to enter the A-32. There are over 60 ten man teams operating in the jungles and it is not easy for the LTTE to infiltrate into Pooneryn. That is why no such incidents have been reported during the last two to three. Those who try to come in, will get killed.

Q: It's now one year since the fall of the East. What is your observation from the military point of view?

A: At the time we captured the East, over 3,000 LTTE cadres had died and up to now the LTTE has lost about 13,000. Out of the 12,000 terrorists killed by the Army, over 7,800 were killed only during this year.

Comment by tamilnation.org All Tamils are terrorists...

 "...Against partisans backed by the entire population, colonial armies are helpless. They have only one way of escaping from the harassment which demoralizes them .... This is to eliminate the civilian population. As it is the unity of a whole people that is containing the conventional army, the only  anti-guerrilla strategy which will be effective is the destruction of that people, in other words, the civilians, women and children..." Jean Paul Sartre's Statement 'On Genocide' at the Second Session of the Bertrand Russell International War Crimes Tribunal on Vietnam, held in Denmark in November 1967

Q: What are the clashes that have taken place in the East on and disturbing the normalacy in the region?

A: The LTTE has not stopped sending its cadres to the East to disrupt the normalacy there. They are sending cadres with claymore mines and pistols to Colombo and we have recovered enough pistols, claymore mines and suicide belts in and around Colombo. Sending LTTE cadres to the East, an area where majority are Tamils is not a difficult task for the LTTE. If the LTTE is finished there won't be problems in the East. By doing so they cannot destabilise the East and also cannot divert troops from the North. So many of them are getting killed and surrender. Some who surrendered have told that the instructions were not to get injured but to survive to disrupt the day-to-day activities in the East. There are no plans to divert troops to East as there are enough troops in the East to provide security.

Q: Your term has been extended for another year but the former Minister Mangala Samaraweera has said that you are qualified to serve as the Head of the Salvation Army but not as the Commander of the Sri Lanka Army.

A: Now I am proud of that because all this time I did not know that I am qualified enough to be the boss of an organisation like the Salvation Army. I do not take this statement as an insult as it is an honour for me. This is one of the most respected appointments that one could hold. Other than my military capabilities this politician has seen my other qualifications. I am very happy with this statement, but I really do not know what he has really meant by this. He is sadly mistaken because he cannot simply say that a General with 37-years of experience is not fit to be the Commander of the Army.

Q: But after your retirement if you are given the chance to be the Head of the Salvation Army are you going to accept it?

A: I do not think that they will accept me because I do not have the required background to hold that post. Only this man wants me to hold that post. That may be a more recognised post than being the Commander of the Army.

Q: According to Mangala Samaraweera, who was quoted by the Tamil Net, there are over 700 Army casualties in the recent battles. What is the actual number of soldiers who died and got wounded?

A: The total deaths in the final attack is 17. Over 60 LTTE cadres were killed. But as he mentioned there are not such a large number of casualties reported.

When people are mad they see various dreams and this politician has seen such a dream where over 600 soldiers are being killed by the LTTE.

According to his figures, if there are 600 deaths, there may be over 2,000 casualties. Then all the hospitals, cemeteries and funeral parlours will be full. He would have imagined this and celebrating this.

He thinks that people of this country are fools to believe his dreams. He must be working on a contract given by the LTTE and the anti-war people in the South who want to see the army losing the war and the LTTE winning it.

He may be on a contract to discourage people who support us to defeat the LTTE.I challenge him, if he really wants to become more popular, he can achieve that by stitching more dresses.

Q: However, does the Army have enough soldiers to hold the ground when the troops are advancing into Kilinochchi and Mullaithivu?

A: As I said before we have enough battalions in the frontlines and there are another 60 battalions behind them who are looking after the rear areas.

We have more recruitments and normally we are recruiting 3,000 but during the months of October we have recruited 3,700 and November 3,900. Recruiting drives are getting better. The Army got the approval to strengthen its capacity from the present 130,000 to 200,000.

Q: At a recent live program it was said that the LTTE, which ran out of mortars and artilleries as the Navy had destroyed the LTTE's ships, is now using locally made mortars and artilleries. It is said that this drop has caused less number of mortar and artillery casualties. Is it true?

A: Over 16,000 soldiers got injured due to mortar and artillery attacks. Of the total, 10,000 soldiers have gone back to the battle front after treatment. The troops which are advancing are confronting mortar and artillery attacks because they are brave enough to face any attack from the LTTE.  They make all these sacrifices because of their bravery. Though the troops have come closer to defeat the LTTE, it is not a cake walk for the victory. They march through rains of mortars and artilleries. No one can under estimate the bravery of the soldiers who face many difficulties to liberate the North. People should not make these statements to under estimate the bravery of the soldiers. Those who utter those will help the LTTE sympathisers and the anti-war groups to stop the war.

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